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Slowpoke

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What we have here is a steel, sand cast trigger guard for a Lancaster rifle. For you that scratch build.... how much would you pay (of course passing the cost on to you customer) for a filed, polished, ready to install trigger guard like this. Just curious because I would probably pay $100.
 
They also carry German Jaeger locks for pre carved French fusils fin{so called Types C and D}and Siler locks for stocks precarved for Tennessee rifles so why shouldn't they carry iron mounts for early Lancaster rifles? There are those out there who will buy them and restore my faith in the unerring observation of P.T.Barnum.
Tom Patton
 
Fine... here's a brass one that's PC.....
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Reason why I asked is I consider this my least favorite thing to do and it would be worth it to me.
 
DANG! :cursing: I was hoping you were planing on going into the hand polishing business....... :youcrazy:
 
Okwaho said:
They also carry German Jaeger locks for pre carved French fusils fin{so called Types C and D}and Siler locks for stocks precarved for Tennessee rifles so why shouldn't they carry iron mounts for early Lancaster rifles? There are those out there who will buy them and restore my faith in the unerring observation of P.T.Barnum.
Tom Patton
Tom, I'm a total newbie when it comes to architecture/furniture etc. but with the help of this board. RCA, and folks like you, I'm learning a lot. Your post presents an opportunity to learn some more. Why would ol'P.T. have laughed at someone because of this trigger guard? Is it because it is steel? Sand cast? Are steel and iron synonimous in this case? Is iron/steel not acceptable on an early Lancaster. I'm not being flippant, trite or anything else. I truly didn't understand your post( except for the "sucker" part.
Jim
 
For my TGs $100 isn't enough seeing this is the least liked "job" of building a LR. It's the least liked because I never seem to be satisfied w/ the facets or the thinning out to the edges and many hrs. are req'd before a TG passes muster. To start w/, a brass sand casting is used and these usually have a surplus of mat'l to expedite better casting, but they sure are thick and rough as purchased. Some TG castings are investment castings and require a lot less work and are cast of yellow brass {Chambers, Goehring}, but others are a bronze alloy which doesn't match the other yellow brass parts and as these bronze parts age, the difference becomes even more evident. Possibly if I was building for a living, I would change either the castings or my "fussiness" which probably is overdone. I'm far from an expert on PC matters, but iron {steel} furniture on a Lancaster is frowned upon by the people "in the know" and they present as evidence the lack of original PA. LRs having iron hardware. Of course if a person wants an iron mounted LR, he should go for it....Fred
 
Slowpoke said:
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What we have here is a steel, sand cast trigger guard for a Lancaster rifle. For you that scratch build.... how much would you pay (of course passing the cost on to you customer) for a filed, polished, ready to install trigger guard like this. Just curious because I would probably pay $100.



I wouldn't pay that much because it doesn't have an acorn finial on it!
 
I find that this style of trigger guard isn't long enough for all three of my fingers to fit on the guard behind the trigger. I'd rather use something like this.[url] http://www.dixiegunworks.com/product_info.php?cPath=22_96_202_201&products_id=6864[/url]
or this[url] http://www.dixiegunworks.com/product_info.php?cPath=22_96_202_201&products_id=6857[/url]
 
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"Tom,... Why would ol'P.T. have laughed at someone because of this trigger guard? Is it because it is steel? Sand cast? Are steel and iron synonimous in this case? Is iron/steel not acceptable on an early Lancaster...."
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Well, I'm not Tom, but I'll take a stab at your question and let Tom and the others correct me if I'm wrong.

Old Lancasters, and all of the other Schools of old Pennsylvania rifles usually used brass or bronze trigger guards, butt plates and thimbles.
A few used Silver but that was very uncommon.

Later, in the mid 1800s some Pennsylvania makers used German Silver (actually not silver, but a nickle/copper alloy).

The inland Southern guns like the Tennessee usually used iron hardware, usually hand forged to shape.
I added the "inland" because the Southern Coastal states guns are also often found using Brass hardware.

As I mentioned, the old inland Southern guns usually used iron hardware but finding real iron hardware is almost impossible these days so steel castings are sold.
For folks who really want iron parts, there are some blacksmiths who will make up the hardware but it is (as you might have guessed) very expensive.

Over the years, I've talked with some folks who really like the styles of some of the Pennsylvania rifles but dislike the shiny brass/bronze hardware the guns should have, prefering the dull look of browned steel. Most of these people are more Hunting orientated than History orientated and don't really give a hoot about Period Correct or Historically Correct guns.

Zonie :)
 
got one from dixions fair last year....i think it was from tips tent....i paid 22.00 fer it and i had to finish it....but it was in better shape then yers....hope this helps.........bob
 
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