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ian45662

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when you fellas go out to do some load development with your uberti revolvers what size groups would you expect to see and say... 25 yards?
 
ian45662 said:
when you fellas go out to do some load development with your uberti revolvers what size groups would you expect to see and say... 25 yards?

I had a Western Arms(now long gone) Uberti that would shoot into 5-6" for 6 shots at 80 yards.
However, it would only do this with all the powder that would fit and just slightly compressed with the ball flush with the cylinder face.
More powder, more compression of the charge, scattered the shots.
I never shot lighter loads since it was a using gun and not used for paper targets.

Dan
 
The same size group that you can shoot with a fixed sight
modern cartage gun
 
Dan Phariss is right. I have found that the closer I can load the ball/bullet to the front of the cylinder the more accurate my loads get, generally speaking. I might only be using a light load of powder but I will fill in the rest of the space between the powder and the ball/bullet with filler (never fire BP firearm with any unfilled space between ball and powder), like Cream of Wheat, until the ball is set right below the edge of the cylinder mouth.
 
Would it be possible to consistently hit a golf ball at 25 yards provided one was a great shot or if the revolver was on a rest
 
I used to be able to bounce pop cans around at 35 yards with an old brass pietta. So an Uberti should do as good or better. Refine your load and practice. You will need to tune the sights to make a more repeatable sight picture. Square the rear notch, place a taller front sight with a flat top post is what I have done. Consistancy in loading and aiming and trigger control will get you where you want. At least from a clean barrel. Swab out the barrel with a brush to keep doing it every time you get ready to load again. Plus when you remount the barrel, place the wedge in the exact same spot. If your Uberti's cylinder pin does not bottom out in the hole under the barrel then tension on the barrel from inconsistant wedge placement might cause problems with accuracy.

Good Luck


Bob
 
If you follow Leatherbark’s recommendations I don’t see why not. In most of these things the pistol has a lot less to do with the failure to achieve the goal than the operator.
 
ian45662 said:
Would it be possible to consistently hit a golf ball at 25 yards provided one was a great shot or if the revolver was on a rest

I dunno about that particular gun, but I have a 1861 Pietta .36 Navy that could. And the shots that missed would scare the bejeebers out of it.

The most generally accurate load I have found for percussion revolvers is as much Goex 2F as the cylinder will hold, which still allows you to seat a greased felt wad on the powder, and be able to start the ball in the chamber w/o any interference from the wad. You will need to play around with ramming pressure, and work on getting consistent with your powder measure usage and ramming pressure. 2F wants a bit more pressure than 3F, but not quite as much as Pyrodex. You might also want to play around with cap types and brands - sometimes 2F likes hot caps, sometimes it is fine w/ standard ones, depending on the gun and the nipples.

A new gun may also need to settle in, and let the bore smooth up from shooting for 50-100 rounds. In fact, most guns will still be improving in accuracy at 500-1000 rounds as the bore keeps getting polished by shooting.
 
My Uberti-made 1858 Remington will put six bullets into a 1-1/2" circle all day long, from a benchrest, at 20 yards (measured, not paced). The load is:

Lee 200 gr. conical bullet cast of very soft lead.

Goex FFFG black powder -- 26 grs.

Remington No. 11 percussion cap, pinched into elliptical shape.

Bullet lubricated with Gatofeo No. 1 lubricant: 1 part canning paraffin, 1 part mutton tallow, 1/2 part beeswax. All measurements are by weight, not volume.
The use of any other ingredients will result in an inferior lube. Use exactly what is prescribed.

My Uberti has a very nice trigger, aiding accuracy. At 25 yards, the groups remain the same or open slightly. This load could probably put all bullets in the same ragged hole, but the fixed sights and my 57-year-old eyes are not best of friends.
 

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