use hawken price?

[duke21]

i have someone who owes me some money for metal work i have done for them. Apparently they are out of cash and cannot pay. I understand, money is tight for me as well( customers not paying) anyhow, the guy knows i like firearms a lot. He brings in a handfull, of which one is a T/C Hawken 50 cal percussion gun. To be quite truthful the stock has a couple minor nicks, and the barrel has one spot about the size of a nickel where it apparently had slightly rusted at one time or the finish wasnt so perfect. bore looked pretty good. I wasnt really looking for another 50 but, if i can make this trade off work, i wouldnt mind having a T/C. Any ideas of what i would consider a 90 to 92% gun would be worth.

thanks

duke21

 

[lonewolf5347]

I WOULD SAY YOU DON'T TO MANY T/C HAWKENS THAT WILL GO UNDER $200.00 IN GOOD SHAPE,I WOULD FIRST DROP A BORE LIGHT DOWN THE BARREL FOR ANY DEEP PITTS.
I ALSO THINK THE EARLY MODEL WILL BRING A LITTLE MORE $$$ SERIALS NUMBERS 4 OR 5 DIGITS. :thumbsup:

 

[davy]

I WOULD SAY YOU DON'T TO MANY T/C HAWKENS THAT WILL GO UNDER $200.00 IN GOOD SHAPE,I WOULD FIRST DROP A BORE LIGHT DOWN THE BARREL FOR ANY DEEP PITTS.
I ALSO THINK THE EARLY MODEL WILL BRING A LITTLE MORE $$$ SERIALS NUMBERS 4 OR 5 DIGITS. :thumbsup:

Sounds about right IMHO ... :hatsoff:

Davy

 

[duke21]

so a good clean , unabused gun should be worth maybe a couple hundred. of course cash is king, but i think this gun would really look sweet if i refinished the wood on the gun. where are the serial numbers on the gun, so i can see what i have there as well?

A local shop has one that was put on consignment for 350.00 i think, it was a couple weeks ago when i last saw it. honestly i dont see a lot of difference between the two guns, except the consignment gun is a bit darker on both the wood and the barrel.

are these T/C guns made in U.S. or spainish/italian? I have typically leaned toward the smaller calibers for small game, but think a dependable 50 would be sweet for deer around here.

thanks for the feedback guys,

duke21

 

[MikeC]

T/C's are 100% made in the USA and come with a lifetime warrenty.

 

[john12865]

so a good clean , unabused gun should be worth maybe a couple hundred. of course cash is king, but i think this gun would really look sweet if i refinished the wood on the gun. where are the serial numbers on the gun, so i can see what i have there as well?

A local shop has one that was put on consignment for 350.00 i think, it was a couple weeks ago when i last saw it. honestly i dont see a lot of difference between the two guns, except the consignment gun is a bit darker on both the wood and the barrel.

are these T/C guns made in U.S. or spainish/italian? I have typically leaned toward the smaller calibers for small game, but think a dependable 50 would be sweet for deer around here.

thanks for the feedback guys,

duke21

T/C is an American gun backed by a lifetime warranty for the person possessing the gun. It doesn't cover blatant stupidity like letting your bore rot out, but it does cover the mechanicals. T/C was bought by Smith and Wesson as I understand. Don't expect that T/C will be around a long time. All their guns were good quality for production guns.
Just curious how much did this guy owe you?

 

[duke21]

i weld and fabricate for a living. also build heavy industrial machinery. This was supposed to be a friend helping a friend kinda deal. any shop around here would have billed the guy probably 2 to 3 thousand for the work involved( several projects) He being a freind and trying to help a christian brother out, i agreed to do all the work work 750 dollars. part of the agreement was to be paid when done or latest in 10 days. This was 60 days ago. Thats why we have discussed the tradeouts. Worst case scenario, is that if i dont want the guns, i can possibly sell at he pawn shop to get me some cash in. I have bills that need paid as well.

anyway, made in USA is VERY important to me. as we all know, in a lot of the guns we purchase over years, most arent made here at all. I understand this is a world economy and all that BS. But we as a country cannot simply continue to send all of our manufacturing jobs out of country. I dont really believe the entire population can work at wal mart or mcdonalds and thrive.

just my very patriotic opinion!!!

anyhow, sounds like i need to grab this gun and take something off of his bill.

thanks,

duke21

 

[boar]

Look in ftont of Serial No to see if there is a K in front. The K means a kit gun.The wood is not covered under a kit gun, just the metal. Dilly

 

[Bountyhunter]

If he is a friend and christian, and his intentions are good, talk to him about working off his bill. In a way he could become an indentured servant to you evenings and weekends to help you out and pay his bill.

I was down and out once, and I worked off my bills. It was the only way I could pay. I went in nights and weekends and rebuilt automatic transmissions for the mechanic. He hated it and I enjoyed it and it worked out.

 

[wtilenw]

I have found that in trade situations, guns are worth what you can readily get out of them, no more. A good rule of thumb for me has been that used guns are usually turned quickly for 1/2 the price of a new one. In this way, old guns appreciate because the price of new ones is constantly rising. You take a big hit initially with the purchase of a gun but eventually it becomes worth more than you paid for it as the price of new ones eventually doubles, so for example, that gun you bought in 1975 for 200.00 is now worth 250.00 because a new one is now 500.00. I wouldn't offer him any more than you can readily turn the gun for cash. You may even have him sell some guns to get the cash. This may seem harsh and you might choose to go lighter on him but if he is not able to honor his part of the deal and puts you in a bind, financially because of it then consider it interest on the loan. Also, remember "Free advice is worth exactly what you pay for it". Hope it all works out for you and you don't somehow end up being the "Bad Guy".
Idaho PRB

 

[Robert58]

If you take that gun to a Pawn Shop, you will get only about $100.00 for it. But if you sell the stock complete and barrell in two separate auctions (the only way ebay will let you sell it) the stock will sell for $125.00 to $225.00 and the barrel will sell for $75.00 to $175.00.

We need to know some perticulairs on the barrel.

Does it have a clean out screw.

Does it have the AQL (counterbore in the muzzle).

Does it have a K in front of the serial number.

What is the serial number.

But in anycase, if he is a friend, I would allow him no more than $225.00 to $250.00 for the gun.

Robert

 

[oldarmy]

If he is offering you his firearms as payment for work you did. After agreeing to pay you in cash.
He must be going throught some hard times..
As a Christian and a currently unemployed American.
My manufactoring job just went to Mexico :cursing: :cursing: because of corporate greed :nono:
My advice is
Be a generous as you can.. What goes around,comes around and while he is hard up today, maybe later, he will do you a favor..
I know business is business and we need money to survive and pay our oblications. He should have thought about THAT before he asked you to do work he couldn't pay for.
Most gun dealers want 20 to 30%. Take the weapons to a local dealer and ask what they are worth.. then price them.

 

[jasontn]

id agree with others on selling the gun on ebay i have sold 4 recently, a renegade and 3 new englanders, and have done well with them. i had less than 75 in each gun and made 300 on the best and 235 on the worst of my sells. i wanted to keep them but like old army my job went south of teh border and they had to go.

 

[duke21]

guys,

thanks for all of the great advice. This forum is without a doubt the most knowledgeable group of folks i have ever come across regarding firearms. Apparently, there is also a lot of knowledge about life in general as well. A lot of typical folks would have pressed me to be what i am not (moneyhungry).

I understand hardships very well firsthand. Besides going through a funky divorce i didnt want. my business burnt to the ground 5 years ago, and i lost everything i had and then some. I did not lose my hope and will to survive and a good part of that came from my relationship to the lord. several years ago he also guided me through health problems as i had cancer. i have now been cured for over 2 decades( darn, that seems like a long time) Anyhow, that is why i offered to help this freind in the first place. I did an honest 2k worth of work for him. Not just my labor but also of employees. WE agreed to a price that he could live with and went on. I am still suffering from my fire losses and minor ventures that went sour. I thought the job would benefit us both at the time. I have prayed about this and worked the best i can to try to help him find solutions.
he is really not qualified in any way to work in my shop, and the jobs i have asked him to help on, he is always too busy for.
I am not going to continue to concern myself with this debt right now, as i know of the times he is facing( been there, done that) Maybe this willwork out and i can have a nice 50 cal T/C , or maybe not. I cannot frett over this situatioin. I have lots of other folks who owe me lots more that he does, and they are making no attempts to get them paid. I believe this friend will come through one way or the other, we where just trying to find a way to make it easier for all parties involved.

I apologize for bringing you into my problems, and thank you for your kind advice and words. I also wish those who have lost there jobs luck and will pass along a prayer for your needs to be met. Self employment is not always what it is cracked up to be. There are many times a day that i wish i had a 8 to 5 5 days a week job that would allow me to have more of a live and enjoy my family more.

anyway, you folks are a blessing,

thanks, and god bless

duke21