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Dickert54cal

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Cant find my Lyman manual anywhere. :(
I was looking to see what the velocities are of a .530 roundball using 70, 80, and 90 gr of 3F. If anyone can locate this info would you please post it for me? :hatsoff:
Im doing a 'traditional' flintlock only hog hunt this fall and Im curious as to the 'perfect' load for BIG piggies.
 
Dickert, My old Lyman manual has data for a .535" ball but not for a .530". Even so, the data should be pretty close. Using GOEX FFFg, out of a 34" barrel, the muzzle velocities for 70, 80, & 90 grain loads are; 1439, 1519, & 1591 fps. Le Grand
 
The second edition gives the following for a 32 inch barrel, 1:60 twist using a .535 roundball over a .015 patch and Goex FFFg powder:
70 grains 1373
80 grains 1412
90 grains 1475
100 grains 1538

zonie :)
 
Remember, that whatever starts out faster, slows down faster. Those muzzle velocities may suggest that you stuff all the powder you can to get more velocity ( the Ol' More Is Better " hype- ), but if you look at down range velocities, you will see that much of that extra velocity is shed very shortly after leaving the barrel, and by the time you get to 100 yards, the difference between the slower velocity and the highest velocity can be measured in a couple of fps. No animal will tell the difference between being hit with the faster or slower load.

So, understand that penetration is more a function of the weight of the ball, than the velocity. Do you own penetration tests to confirm this. Use whatever trips your trigger: Ballistics gel, boards, newspapers, phone books, wet paper, dry paper, drywall, plywood, sandbags, etc. I fiddled around with all of them, and you will learn the same lesson I did.

Use a load that is accurate, and has as flat a mid range trajectory as you can hold and shoot accurately. If you don't hit it you can't kill it.

A .45 is adequate to kill deer to 50 yards, and some yards beyond if you place the ball right. A 50 is good to 100 yds. A .54 will kill well past the point when the ball is dropping too fast to use it while estimating yardage. Stick to 125 yds or less, while it will kill well past 200 yds. When you consider calibers bigger than .54, the weight of the ball and the recoil forces generated to try to flatten the trajectory becomes rather brutal. But the .58 and bigger calibers will put a big hurt on any deer inside 100 yards.
 
Be abit patient and you will get the latest measurements for .45, .50 and .54 with PRB and Minie.I will do it next week after Eastern.

Greetings from GE.
 
You guys are great!! Thanks. I think I may have left my book at the range. If not I may have to go look in one of my gun cases....It may be in a zippered pocket--Hope so. I plan on taking a shot on a hog 50 yards or less. With a 44" Rice barrel in a 54 cal I dont think he will run too far if I hit him behind the shoulder.I also think I may just stick to 80 gr and not up it to 90. Im a very patient and ethical hunter so I will never take a rushed or questionable shot. :thumbsup:
 
I did measurements with my .54 Investarm/Lyman Hawken, capgun. With 90 grs Swiss No.2 and a .533420 Minie I got 1485 fps muzzlevel and about 2000 flps. At 100meters you get a energy of about 1100 flps. So it would be enough for hogs. When hunting hogs always aim at the center of the body to hit the boilerroom. Never aim behind the ears. The area of the head is to tough, because of the bonehead.
 
There is enough lot to lot variation in velocities in different brands of powder to make the published velocity data nearly useless. The published data gives the idea that this is exactly what you will get.

If you shoot Swiss you will normally see very little lot to lot variation. The cheaper brands give a good bit of lot to lot variation.
 
Dickert, Seeing as how you have a 44" barrel on your rifle, here's some more velocities. These are from the same Lyman Handbook but they are for the 43" barreled gun. The same powder charges, 70, 80 & 90 grains of GOEX FFFg gave muzzle velocities of 1527, 1629, & 1685 FPS. And, just to add one more, 100 grains gave 1740 FPS. You might like these velocities better. Le Grand
 
Just got back from vacation---thanks for the info. I thought I remembered right in that the longer barrel would up the velocities slightly due to more powder being burned....I didnt think think theyd be over 1700----thats great news for hog hunting. Again Im thinking my shot will be 50 yards or less.
 
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