What are your thoughts on this barrel/breach fitment?

[pacanis]

I ran into this on GB a while back. Just window shopping.
It was a Lyman GPR fully built rifle. I held off posting until the item sold.

What would you do? Leave it as is? Try to tighten them up?
It's the first I've seen this on any of the rifles I've looked at. If I was the seller I probably would have had this remedied before listing the gun.
It caught my eye anyway.

 

[64Springer]

I would definitely slap a wrench on it.

And if it won't move, shave some steel until it will move.

 

[pacanis]

Where would one shave steel on something like this?
The end of the threads or the joint where they meet?

 

[IanH]

First I'd slap a wrench on it the other direction and clean the crud off of the inside shoulder, apply some anti-seize, and then torque it. While it was off I would also check the bore against a white wall for bends and bulges.

 

[pacanis]

oops. Just realized; this would be a hook breach, right? Don't GPR's have hook breaches?

 

[IanH]

Where would one shave steel on something like this?
The end of the threads or the joint where they meet?

Face of the plug and/or end of the barrel, as indicated by Prussian blue or Sharpie.

 

[akroguy]

Hooked breech not lining up right. The actual hooked breech plug might have been pulled and not put back in to proper clocked alignment. A cleanup, lube and wrenched back in correctly should line it right up.

 

[IanH]

oops. Just realized; this would be a hook breach, right? Don't GPR's have hook breaches?

I think you're right! I blew up the pic on my fone and looked more closely, can see the wider standing breech plate where it is inlet on the left side, and the breech plate is taller than the barrel.

Don't I feel dumb.

 

[pacanis]

Well it's good info to have either way

 

[IanH]

I'm not much into the TC -style rifles. Only thing I know for sure is it is "breech", not "breach". Breech is the back end of something, like our arses, breeches (britches, pants), breechclout, breech-turned baby in the womb, and the back end of a gun barrel.

"Breach" means a hole in something or to make one, like breaching a door or a dam. If your breech breaches, you're gonna be hurt!

 

[pacanis]

Thanks.
I've seen it spelled both ways and was too lazy to look up the correct spelling.
Bale and bail always get me, too. As in the bale on a bucket.

 

[Semisane]

Don't beet yourself up over spelling.

 

[pacanis]

Heck no. Not me.

 

[PathfinderNC]

I'm not much into the TC -style rifles. Only thing I know for sure is it is "breech", not "breach". Breech is the back end of something, like our arses, breeches (britches, pants), breechclout, breech-turned baby in the womb, and the back end of a gun barrel.

"Breach" means a hole in something or to make one, like breaching a door or a dam. If your breech breaches, you're gonna be hurt!

Will this be on the test?

 

[Phil Coffins]

From this distance it appears the fit between the tang and breech of the barrel is off. Raise the barrel or lower the tang, not a big thing.

 

[Rob M.]

Wow ! And that liner too ... Oh boy

 

[necchi]

That's Not, a barrel/breech fit. It's a hook and tang fit in your photo.
And it's obvious to see that someone has tried to fit a 15/16" barrel to a 1" tang/barrel channel.
Hopefully you didn't buy it.

 

[flntlokr01]

I ran into this on GB a while back. Just window shopping.
It was a Lyman GPR fully built rifle. I held off posting until the item sold.

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What would you do? Leave it as is? Try to tighten them up?
It's the first I've seen this on any of the rifles I've looked at. If I was the seller I probably would have had this remedied before listing the gun.
It caught my eye anyway.

It looks to me like somebody may have mis-matched the barrel and the tang. Maybe put a .50 replacement barrel in a .54 frame? That liner needs some attention as well. If there is a gap between the pan and the barrel it's a pretty good indication that the barrel is undersized for that stock.

 

[pacanis]

It looks to me like somebody may have mis-matched the barrel and the tang. Maybe put a .50 replacement barrel in a .54 frame? That liner needs some attention as well. If there is a gap between the pan and the barrel it's a pretty good indication that the barrel is undersized for that stock.

I think someone mentioned that earlier, too. I wish I had paid more attention to the fit of the barrel in the stock and saved a picture of that.
Anyway, it's someone else's problem to deal with.

 

[Frontier's]

Could be that the inletting is a little loose and the hooked breech to tang fit is loose, allow the barrel to cant over