What do I have here? .410 smoothie

[Frontier's]

Took her all down and applied a heavy coat of linseed oil and let it soak up good before wiping off the excess and putting the stock into my heat box for a couple hours to help speed up the dry time. Shes purdy!

Without any markings I have no clue what I have. Everything works. The tumbler however does not have a safety notch. No lock markings, nothing on the barrel, nothing in the stock.

The palm swell is amazing and feels great in the hand.

 

[ppg1949]

Frontier's, Absolutely beautiful. It has a most unique nipple arrangement. Thanks for sharing.

 

[Bad Karma]

I’ve no idea but I like it... the pistol grip looks made to fit small hands and the nipple is interesting to. Very nice little shotgun!

 

[Troyfairweather]

Looks like it could have been used like the monkey gun I have, these were made in Belgium they where used by native people in South America. The grip on yours looks Belgium. Did you pull the barrel out and check for markings.

 

[Frontier's]

yes the barrel and lock, zero markings which leads me to believe its American made.

 

[Troyfairweather]

Here is mine.

 

[Frontier's]

doesnt look anywhere the same as mine.

 

[Carbon 6]

Is that a pinfire?
Weird, but very nice. both guns are.

How about a picture of the barrel breech top ?

 

[Troyfairweather]

Is that a pinfire?
Weird, but very nice. both guns are.

How about a picture of the barrel breech top ?

Off frontiers of mine.

 

[Carbon 6]

frontier's

 

[Carbon 6]

Off frontiers of mine.

I'd love to see more pics of yours to if you have them.

 

[Troyfairweather]

I'd love to see more pics of yours to if you have them.

I have some but a few won't upload for some reason.

 

[Brokennock]

Suspicious of that breach as well, combined with lack of a ramrod. Would love to see pictures of the top of the breach. Also of the muzzle and the end of the forestock.
The lock plate and side plate look oddly long. Very curious about this gun. Hopefully someone comes along with some more definitive answers.
I think the way the trigger guard steel travels back and inlets into the pistol grip all the way through the curve is nice.

 

[Troyfairweather]

I'd love to see more pics of yours to if you have them.

 

[Frontier's]

 

[Brokennock]

Does a cap fit directly on what looks like a huge nipple (maybe perspective off with nothing to compare against) or is the inside of that home threaded?

Any provision for a loading/wiping rod? Indication that thimbles were once soldered to the barrel, hole in the end of the forestock? I am aware some late fowling guns had separate rods with no provision for the gun holding them, but I thought it was a British or Euro trend.

Could potentially be a pretty cool squirrel and rabbit gun.

 

[Carbon 6]

Now I'm even more intrigued.

 

[Britsmoothy]

Looks good to me. Just need some .400" balls.

 

[Frontier's]

There is a ramrod hole drilled. Either the pipes fell off at some point or they were never put on. A musket cap ALMOST fits the nipple shaft.

 

[IdahoMatt]

I have seen a couple very similar guns around that were being called monkey or parrot guns, supposedly used in the feather trade. I would say @Troyfairweather is on the right path, judging from the back action lock and the carved grips. No definitive answer here, but i would explore the monkey/parrot gun rabbit hole.