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What WOULD NOT be a "Traditional Muzzleloader"
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4. Any weapon "style" where only a limited number were manufactured.
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Would the follow'n describe what a TMA "might" say in regards to "non-traditional muzzleloaders":.......
The TMA "DOES NOT ENDORSE", now or ever,.... muzzleloading weapons of modern inline systems, or weapons thet are made of non-traditional materials, having non-traditional center-line or sealed non-traditional ignition systems using discs/modern primers, or using non-traditional projectiles, and having non-traditional sights,.... as "deemed" by the TMA founders and original board of directors.
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The TMA "DOES NOT ENDORSE", now or ever,.... muzzleloading weapons of modern inline systems, or weapons thet are made of non-traditional materials, having non-traditional center-line or sealed non-traditional ignition systems using discs/modern primers, or using non-traditional projectiles, and having non-traditional sights,.... as "deemed" by the TMA founders and original board of directors.
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Anything with a rubber recoil pad buttplate.
Fiberglass ramrods.
Pyrodex, pellets, 777, other synthetic propellants.
Non-round and/or non-lead projectiles (Even the Mini
Fiberglass ramrods.
Pyrodex, pellets, 777, other synthetic propellants.
Non-round and/or non-lead projectiles (Even the Mini
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What about mass produced things like GPR's, Thompson Centers, Pederosoli, things like that? Include 'em? Not include 'em? Are we looking for original built (not antique weapons, ones made by an individual).
If I build a gun then I can rightfully say it's original and by my hand, not built by others and the only one of it's kind. Do we go in that direction?
If I build a gun then I can rightfully say it's original and by my hand, not built by others and the only one of it's kind. Do we go in that direction?
Define limited.
Is the Ferguson traditional? Okay, technically not a muzzleloader if a flint from the muzzleloading era.
Nock's volley gun?
The Collier rifle?
All are flintlock and incorporate traditonal elements along with more progressive concepts. They were made in small numbers. A couple of hundred each at most.
How about styles of longrifle, schools if you will? Often there are more contemporary rifles available copying a style than originals made.
That is a tough one. I would think that if only a small number of arms were manufactured and that particular style was more of an anomaly rather than something that influenced future firearms, it would not be considered to be part of a tradition.
I wouldn't presume to put a number on it, but rather let others decide for themselves what they think is reasonable.
Well then that leaves out all the Lyman and T/C guns.
For the purpose of setting up a TMA.....Maybe anything without a sidelock? Anything that is inline ignition?
Caution division of the people. I'd like to have an original reproduction but instead of spending that much $ I chose to buy a .32 Crockett and a .54 GPR this year.
Will there be sanctioned shoots with the TMA? I've been to a few BP shoots in a few states, east and west, and you could shoot a CVA Hawken and other types like it as long as you shot PRB. No inlines. Kids could shoot the CVA Bobcats and such. How could you turn them away?
I'd like to join TMA if it comes about, but I won't go buy a $1000+ gun to do it.
I've seen the same traditional debate for a long time in archery. I shoot a recurve and longbow. How traditional are they with some of the things they're made of these days?
Caution division of the people. I'd like to have an original reproduction but instead of spending that much $ I chose to buy a .32 Crockett and a .54 GPR this year.
Will there be sanctioned shoots with the TMA? I've been to a few BP shoots in a few states, east and west, and you could shoot a CVA Hawken and other types like it as long as you shot PRB. No inlines. Kids could shoot the CVA Bobcats and such. How could you turn them away?
I'd like to join TMA if it comes about, but I won't go buy a $1000+ gun to do it.
I've seen the same traditional debate for a long time in archery. I shoot a recurve and longbow. How traditional are they with some of the things they're made of these days?
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anything with those wierd deep gouges in the barrel or that funny little copper thingy that blows up when the cock hits it...
caps and fouling grooves will NEVER catch on, folks, it's all a fad!
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sorry, all the traditional talk is making me a little punchy
caps and fouling grooves will NEVER catch on, folks, it's all a fad!
:crackup: :crackup:
sorry, all the traditional talk is making me a little punchy
I agree with the pellets ... but around here (Mass) many places can't sell BP anymore. Forcing us to use "alternative" BP powder substitues, buy out of state ... or move :hmm:
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Barney,.... I don't think when the TMA is formed, it will attempt to exclude "kids" with ther beginner rifles. (or, even "adults" for thet matter)!! :thumbsup:
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