Who made the tuned siler flintlock???

[sixoclockhold]

Who assembled the Tuned (with roller frizzen)
Siler flintlocks. It has a fish symbol stamped inside the plate. Lock need repair hangs up at half **** when fired sometimes.

 

[Leonredbeard]

Jeff,
I it hangs up at halfcock when you pull the trigger, the fly is likely missing. Trust me, they are tres' easy to lose. Been there, done that. Look at the tumbler at the bottom. **** the lock, if there is no little toggle that swings back and forth the fly is gone. That is the only reason that I can think of that would make it hang up on the half **** position.
volatpluvia

 

[Birddog6]

Yes, sounds like the fly is missing. However, if it has a roller the bottom of the frizzen, it doesn't mean it is tuned and also it is not a Siler lock.

 

[sixoclockhold]

I replaced the fly same problem.
It is a Siler assembled by someone in North carolina who stamps it with the Christian fish symbol.

 

[bob1961]

i just looked at jim's website and no roller flintlocks on it....as far as i know jim chambers is the owner of siler locks....maybe someone put the roller frizzen on a siler :v ..........bob

 

[Birddog6]

If you go back to the site & look, the Chambers Ketland lock does have a roller on it, but none of the Silers I have ever bought from Jim had a roller on it & I have bought dozens of them from him.

That is why I thought possibly it was a L&R & the Classic does look similar to a Siler & it does have a roller on it.

 

[Treerat]

Davis makes a copy of the Siler with a roller frizzen and even use The Siler name but as I understand it the parts won't interchange as the dimensions are slightly different.

 

[SAJones]

Check the new fly to see if it works: ie, pull to full ****; while holding the ****, release it; slowly lower & see if the fly makes the sear move away from the tumbler. Doing this by hand can still let the sear hit half-****, as it is slower than the actual spring powered fall. If it doesn't move the sear, you have a really bad tumbler.

Incientally, roller frizzens can be "retrofitted" on Siler locks; did it once & noticed no real improvement. A lot of work for questionable gain far as I'm concerned.

 

[Birddog6]

Well, I went to their site & was looking at that, but I cannot tell for sure if it had a roller or not. The only Davis locks I have used have been the Jaeger locks, and they have a D stamped in them.

 

[Vaino]

Davis' catalog shows a "Verner" flintlock {basically a Siler} which has their "Speed Kit" installed which includes a rollered frizzen and a cast in cam on the frizzen spring. The "Speed Kit" can be purchased separately.....Fred

 

Birdog 6, only the Siler Late Ketland has a roller. If the fly is still there, then two things that come to mind are gunk in the lock, hanging up the fly, or binding in the lock mortice somewhere. I would hose out the lock with some kind of areosol solvent like brake cleaner then dry with an airhose. and try it several times out of the gun. If it works fine then try it in the rifle. If it then hangs it's a bind of some sort in the mortice, due to swelling of wood, or a twist by possible overtightened lock screws Work out one potential at a time. I'm gonna guess it's some small piece of gunk, or fiber from a cleaning rag.
Bill

 

[dlemaster]

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Covered by better folks than me.

Regards, Dave

 

[Treerat]

The one that Flehto describes is the one I was reffering to. BTW file that squirrel off one of there other locks and what have you got? A Siler Mountain percussion. I think that I will just stick with Chambers.

 

[Frank/Pa]

I believe they were assembled by Appalachian Lock Company. They were assembling siler locks about 10 years ago. I have used a number of their locks and they are good performers. I never had one with the roller frizzen, but they stamped a fish on the inside of the lock plates.

 

[Frank/Pa]

I just dug out my old records from 1993. These locks were assembled and tuned by Homer Sales of Appalachian Lock Assembly in Fairview NC. The competition tuned locks with the roller frizzen were $70 back then. I have used about 6-8 of his standard Siler flintlocks, and they have all performed well. The standard flintlocks were $50 each. Never used one of the competition tuned locks.

 

[don getz]

The lock was probably done by Homer Sales of Appalachian Lock Supply. He would do a siler lock
with a roller on the frizzen. As a matter of fact, he did one for my son that has a roller on the end of the main spring, where it rides on the tumbler....really smooth....Don

 

[6mmppc]

I suspect you would have noticed but just in case you didn't. Look to see if the corner of the sear notch is broken where it hits the fly. I just had that happen on a Davis lock. It acts just like the fly is missing and catches in the half **** notch. Also had it happen on a L&R Manton lock.
Dennis

 

[gpsutton]

I bought a lock like this which I still shoot on a custom .40. It's probably a Davis lock. Good lock, never had a problem with it.