trying new stuff also with wiping.. it seemed the only way i could get the crud ring out of my .62 rifle with my 125 grain 2fg load was to take a brush with mso/ alcohol mix and scrub it out.. this was the only way i could relieve the blown patches and higher pressures related to this crud ring that sets just over the powder charge.. it reduces ball size as i cram the ball home, increases pressure of the ball on the powder and causes blown pathces because the ball is under sized after going by the crud ring.. any help appreciated.. by the way it shoots three rounds very well with hunting accuracy sometimes 4 without wiping, but then its off to the races.. it may work better if at the range, if i wipe after each shot from shot one?? dave..
winter wiping teckniques
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Dave, the question I have is why are you using 125 grains of powder? Even for big game that load seems far to heavy. If you reduce the load then the crud ring will not be a problem. By reduce I mean 90-95 grains. This will most likely solve any problems you have with blown patches also.
I use pillow ticking and ballistol/ water for a lube.
To clean I use Windex, the green stuff, I think it has vinegar in it. One wet patch and 2 dry and I can shoot all day.
I use this to clean also. It makes quick work of any mess.
125 grains and a .600 round ball? Man, that's gotta hurt.
Kevin. :hatsoff:
I use pillow ticking and ballistol/ water for a lube.
To clean I use Windex, the green stuff, I think it has vinegar in it. One wet patch and 2 dry and I can shoot all day.
I use this to clean also. It makes quick work of any mess.
125 grains and a .600 round ball? Man, that's gotta hurt.
Kevin. :hatsoff:
ffffg said:
Another good one to use wiping between shots is Hoppe's No.9 BP PLUS...I've tried a couple of range sessions with .58cal / Goex 2F loads during some dry winter days, and there is zero buildup, very little fouling...just down and up both sides of a dampish-wet Hoppe's patch and the bore is spotless...cleans & lubes at the same time
Hello all,
I constantly see references to wiping between shots on this site. I shoot out West in soggy California. The ranges/courses I shoot are usually 20-25 shots and I don't know anyone who routinely wipes between shots. Is the extra fouling you all mention caused by environmental influences? Type of powder? Just curious.
Charcloth
I constantly see references to wiping between shots on this site. I shoot out West in soggy California. The ranges/courses I shoot are usually 20-25 shots and I don't know anyone who routinely wipes between shots. Is the extra fouling you all mention caused by environmental influences? Type of powder? Just curious.
Charcloth
I can only speak for myself here in central North Carolina...I'm one who hates to wipe between shots...and about 9-10 months out of the year I don't have to wipe between shots as humidity is high enough so that what little fouling there is from Goex 3F and Natural Lube 1000, it's so soft I can just keep loading and shooting.charcloth said:
But in the colder, very low humidity months of December/January/February, fouling dries out very fast, starts to build up, and after a few shots it gets harder to load, so this winter I've started making a quick wipe between shots with Hoppe's No.9 BP PLUS...stuff is fabulous
Big John
45 Cal.
I walk the winter snowshoe biathlons, alcohol wipes and mink oil lubed patch, always clean and won't freeze.Average -20 to 15 degrees.
kevin,, becouse our bumble bees look like your humming birds, our coyotes look like your deer, our elk look like your volkswagens, and our grizzly bears look like your 1980 cadilacs..and i dont know what is with some of our moose, once in awhile i see one you can drive under.. i think all of our critters are on steroids.. :grin: dave.
charcloth said:
Charcloth,
The object of wiping after every shot is to maintain the same conditions in the bore shot after shot. It is a great aid to accuracy. WHen you don't wipe between shots even the soft fouling will make your shots have a tendency to string vertically.
Randy Hedden
Boy, I feel better now that I've read the real question and the answers.
When I saw the title: "winter wiping teckniques "
my first thought was "DON'T USE THE SNOW".
I guess you had to see the post about historic winter methods of wiping ones arse.
:rotf: :grin: :rotf:
When I saw the title: "winter wiping teckniques "
my first thought was "DON'T USE THE SNOW".
I guess you had to see the post about historic winter methods of wiping ones arse.
:rotf: :grin: :rotf:
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Good to see the word arse being spelt correctly for once on your side of the pond. :thumbsup:
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fffg: If you use a corn meal filler between your powder charge and the patched round ball, the meal should help scour out the crud as well as seal the gases behind the patching so you don't get blown patches and cut balls to destroy accuracy. Other shooter routinely run a rod with a good brush down the barrel after each shot, so that the crud does not have a chance to build up. harddog is correct in saying that the crud will destroy accuracy for you because it forces the ball to be positioned differently from shot to shot, changing the amount of space for the powder to burn in each consecutive shot. I use Wonder lube 1000, because it does soften the crud so well that cleaning between shots is not usually needed, except in the cold dry winters here in Illinois. I also lube a cleaning patch and run it down the barrel after seating the ball to lube the barrel in front of the ball, and put lube on any crud that was not loosened when I ran my brush down the barrel after the last shot. Using a chronograph, these practices produce much lower standard deviations in velocity for any given load, and the accuracy of the load rises. In cold weather- really cold weather- you can expect velocities to drop 10 percent or more as it is. When hunting you leave the patch and ball in the barrel for hours, if not days, You want a good lube in that patch so that the patch does not draw moisture and rust the barrel where the patch contacts the bore. That corn mean used as a filler under the ball will absorb any moisture that may get down the barrel, and keep it away from the powder charge. In cold, wet, weather, keep a feather or toothpick in the touchhole to keep moisture out of the powder charge.
