I am going to continue to use the gun-cleaning patches for between-shot swabbing (not as ball-patches nor for "cleaning", one damp (maybe with Dutch's version of 'Moose Milk' then one dry for each shot - if I ever get a chance to shoot. The "dry patch" that I mentioned is Dutch's Ballistol/water soaked (.018") patching, pre-cut, from TOW, the patches soaked in ballistol/water, 1:7 and left to air-dry the water out so the "dry patch" retains the Ballistol for shooting. Found Joann's on line and will take a look. Orientation/geography thing for some background - St. Cloud MN is 115 miles to the city limits, Fargo, ND 125 miles to city limits, Minneapolis is about 180 miles away, Duluth is 160 miles away. Nearest small city is Park Rapids, pop. 3700, has a Ben Franklin and is 20 miles distant. And then, there is Brrmidji (Bemidji), 50 miles distant, pop. ~15000. TOW itself is about 150 miles away. "While at Joann's...", yes, while I am at Joann's... :wink: baxter