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Got 5 quarts of blackberries fresh from the field, the peach trees are a bloomin and it appears to be a good crop in the makin. Any one on these here pages have any of Grandpa's knowin on how to make a good drinkable wine from either of these?
I've got a nice old 2 gallon crock that might work.
Any ideas? :D
 
I've made them both but not in a crock. to use a crock, it would have to be air tight or at least air controllable ortherwise you will make peach vinagar. Air needs to go out only. That could be done by sealing the edge with medicinal cotton batting(sterile)or heavy cotton cloth. That's would all carbon dixoide to go out and keep public enemy #1 from coming in!; namely the pre-historic saber-tooth FRUIT FLY. He is instant death to wine and wine-makers.

Aside from all that another problem arises which is bacteria which can kill a batch a wine in an instant and it is all over the place. You inhale 40 million of 'em every time you breath.

So do you something about wine making? I use chemicals to control problems. Old George Washington, just threw it together and hoped for the best. I have a book that might indicate some natural methods of perserving the must(wine before fermenting). But it is 70/30 against you. A lot has changed since WW II. Which way do you want to go?

And Your crock will better be able to hold a minimum of 5 gallons of stuff. And I do have some good recipes if you know how to prepare them. ::
 
Strongarm, Thanks for the info. However, I have no understanding of the processess at all. A old man I once knew made some pretty good wine. He used glass 5 gal. water bottles, an capped them with a funny looking top. Seems I remember it had a little ball in it to let the pressure out but not any outside air in.
I have searched ebay, and found pages of wine makin' kits, plans, books and on and on. I even saw one of the old glss water bottles that went for a whopping 65.$$ WOW. Glass is better than plastic, yes??
Could you steer me to a good kit or perhaps a book? :peace:
Thanks much
 
Assuming you want to make it anyway you can, here we go:
Peach(can also be used for Apricots)

2 1/2 lbs peaches, 7 pints boiling water, 2 lbs of sugar(2.25 cups = 1 lbs.); 1.5 tsp Acid Blend; 1 tsp Pectic Enzyme; 1/4 tsp tannin; 1/2 tsp Energizer; 1 Campden crush; wine yeast ( I like Champagne yeast for dry wine; reg wine yeast for a sweeter wine)

Wash fruit and insert into boiling water until skin is loose. Peel off skin and quarter fruit and put everyting but pit and stem into a Nylon straining bag. All other ingredients except for yeast and campden tablet. Tablet should be crushed and disovled into mixture. Wait 18 hours and then add yeast by mixing it into mixure(will not disolve, but shouldn't sit on top of mixture either.)

You can substitute the juice of two lemons for the acid blend and rock candy sugar for the Energizer; a black tea bag will substitute for the tannin and you would have to boil everything for 40 minutes to eliminate the Campden tablet and end up with a big mess.

Pectic Enzyme prevents making natural jelly; Campden tablet kills all possible natural bacteria in the fruit(has no effect on yeast). Peaches can be measured as 4 to a pound on average and you could put as many as 4 pounds in a batch.
One batch = 1 gallon of finish wine.

Put in a warm, dark area 70 deg or better for two weeks, stirring occansionally once a day. You have lots of extra room in the crock because this stuff will foam to 1/4 of its original volume. After two weeks pour contents minus the nylon bag to remove most of the solid material into another crock or 1 gallon glass container (and it has to be glass or a crock) and let it sit with the cotton batting covering the openning for several months. During this time place it in a dark cool area, 55 -60 deg is ideal. In about six weeks check to see how much of the sentiment has settled to the bottom. The new wine should have quit bubbling(look for small bubbles around the top edge of the container) and most if not all the sentiment is on the bottom.
Syphon off only the good clear wine and put into another gallon glass container w/cotton plug. You can start to drink this now and/or continue to age it and see if more particles will settle out. You can also add more sugar and water at this point to increase the natural alcohol content or you can add Brandy to the wine to increase the alcohol.
This is called Fortified wine. If you add sugar, you will start the process all over again. Don't try to all a lot more sugar at the beginning because you can poison off the yeast with too much alcohol. If by the way, you start drinking this stuff and there are still bubbles coming up do not seal the bottle with a cap or cork or you will be building your own hand gernade. If you have a pregant friend or a new mother, the residue from the first crock is full vitamins and is know as Brewers Yeast and is very heathly to eat and promotes breast feeding.

I've kept this as simple as possible, if you have questions you should become a winemaker or vin :imo:atur.
 
Sorry,

Just saw your reply after the peach recipe. I have all that equipment you refer to. And the going price for s starter kit is $65. BUT you don't have to spend that much and still make good wine. For $65 you could make any wine in the world and so there is stuff in there you may never use. You don't need a 5 gal glass "CARBOY" unless you are planning to make 5 gallons of wine at a time, for example.

I use 1 gallon wine jugs from church or save gallon glass containers from apple juice. Sometimes you can get them from a local tavern, restaurant or people who caiter weddings. Champainge bottles are good to aquire also.

The stoppers are a much better way to plug bottles than use cotton sterile batting. These are called airlocks and come in many different shapes.

When I first started I bought a diaper pail from K-mart and covered it with saran wrap. 5 gallon plastic pails with covers work and so do kitty litter plastic containers with locking tops as long as they didn't have any posisons in them originally. The initial ferment can be done in plastic, but wine has acid in it and will eat through plastic over a long (months) time. You may want to just buy the stuff you need and build up as you develop interest. The process you will use is called Country Wine as oppose to making wine from grapes.

To syphon off the wine go to the hardware store and buy three feet of clear plastic pipe in 1/4 DIA and 3 feet of clear or white plastic flexible tubing which will attach to the clear plastic pipe. This will become your syphon. It is know as a racking cane. If you buy it from a wine store it will cost you $15 to $20. I just told you how to make your own for under $5. Its not as good, but it will work.

You should go to a wine making supply store and buy the chemicals though especially Acid Blend, Campden Tablets, Pectic Enzme, Engergiser, Wine Stabilizer and Sodium Biosulfate.

Stabilizer stops the ferment process and Sodium Biosulfate is a natural equipment sterilizer.

tom
 
Go to second hand books or Barnes and Noble used books and look for the following;

Beginners:

The Joy of Home Wine Making by Terry Garey
"The Art of Wine Making" Stanley F. Anderson
Winemaking with Canned or Dried Fruit, CJ J Berry
Successful Wine Making at Home - H E Bravery
Bravery has several but this one above is his best.

Advanced: and mostly for grapes

From Vines to Wines by Jeff COX
 
I boil instead of using campden, and use honey instead of table sugar. I think both help the flavor. Some say that boiling is not good for the flavor, and that could be true, but mine has worked out fine. :m2c:

Best to get a good book, which will teach you about yeast, fermenting, sterilizing, bottling, ect...

Good luck, its fun.

ALSO... Beer from a concentrate kit is REALLY easy, only takes 2 weeks, and you can dry hop it and add more dry malt to the batch to really make it good. It's good to have some home made beer around so you wont be as tempted to get into the wine too soon! ::

Jeff
 
WOW :)Strongarm, Quite a detailed post. thanks for the time spent and it appears as though you have spent some time making wine.
As to the last part of the first post, I may be able to find that breastfeeding lass :hmm: and point taken.
Just ordered a small book on the bay about such matters (the winemakin', of course), should be in the pobox in a day or two.
Really, thanks for the info :front:
 
Vaquero, Thanks for the insight :). I would like to try differnt ways, and yours sounds as though you have done it a time or two.
Need all the help I can get at this point :thumbsup:
 
Need all the help I can get at this point :thumbsup:
bladefeather,
Mite want to 'Google' wine making. They have quite a few sites(millions) that should supply you with
all the information you mite need.
snake-eyes :thumbsup:
 
snake-eyes, I just mite do just that.
Thanks


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Got 5 quarts of blackberries fresh from the field, the peach trees are a bloomin and it appears to be a good crop in the makin. Any one on these here pages have any of Grandpa's knowin on how to make a good drinkable wine from either of these?
I've got a nice old 2 gallon crock that might work.
Any ideas? :D

Shave your peaches first, no one likes fuzzy wine...
 
Blackberries need about 2 lbs by volume to make one gallon. Use the other ingredients and honey if you want as was done with the peaches.

Blackberry wine is extremely potent!!!! So don't smoke when you're drink-in.

:p
 
Strongarm, Now we're a talkin :) Just today, picked another 2 quarts of them fine blackberries. The peaches will still be awhile comin'. Would like to get started soon, since it takes a little longer to make the wine than the shine or the beer. :hmm: Are the things like the amount of water, sugar, acid blend, enzyme, tannin, ect still the same???
Still use the lemon for sub? And the general process remains the same I would imagine. The stronger, the better, I would imagine, after all, a'int sippin' it for its medicinal qualities (although Granny Clampit said it were)
Tellin' me ta keep it away from the campfire too I would imgine :front:
Thanks for the info, as I can get it a goin' next day or two. :hatsoff:
 
You might also want to look for "Jim and George's home wine making" first published in 1976. The copy I have was published by A-Printing co., Napa Ca. Their recipe for dry wine on pg 64 worked really good for me using blackberries. I used that recipe to make a dry blackberrie champagne that was out of this world.
 

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