Cimarron 1860 "McCulloch Colt" or antiquing a 1860 Army Uberti

Marplot · Jan 24, 2024

BOUGHT ONE! Cimarron 1860 "McCulloch Colt" at a discount. No need to continue this post

I really like the Cimarron McCulloch Colt with factory antiquing, but Cimarron wants $694.

However Uberti wants the same pistol 1860 Army for $429!

$265 difference (Ouch!) and Uberti is talking about bringing an "all steel"?

A friend just paid me a wad of cash that he has owed me a long time and am tempted to use this "found money" and buy the Cimarron. Wife wants to buy the Cimarron.

I really like the Cimarron with the antique finish. I could get an Uberti, but don't know how hard it is to make it into one with antique finish?

Advice.

Spaxspore · Jan 24, 2024

See my PM.

waarp8nt · Jan 24, 2024

I've used white vinegar to remove the "case hardening" from T/C locks and bluing from other hardware.

My friend has a Uberti and last time I was at Dixie Gun Works he had me pick up 3 of the arms that rotate the cylinder as he had a few failures over the years.

Marplot · Jan 24, 2024

Should I get these "arms" for the Cimarron? I can reach out to Dixie Gun Works. What exactly should I ask?

Marplot · Jan 24, 2024

I have found a Cimarron Colt at a substantial discount. No need to continue this thread

CaptainVane · Jan 24, 2024

Marplot said:
I really like the Cimarron McCulloch Colt with factory antiquing, but Cimarron wants $694.

However Uberti wants the same pistol 1860 Army for $429!
Advice.

Cimmaron is an importer, Uberti a manufacturer. Cimarron gets all their revolvers from Uberti.
So Uberti is doing a special run for Cimarron?

Spaxspore · Jan 24, 2024

CaptainVane said:
Cimmaron is an importer, Uberti a manufacturer. Cimarron gets all their revolvers from Uberti.
So Uberti is doing a special run for Cimarron?

Cimmaron does / has custom finishes. Pre COVID you had alot more options than you do now.

This is one i did let go, when you could order with antique finish straight from Cimarron (1851 Navy).

Ill save the rest for another eye candy thread.

waarp8nt · Jan 24, 2024

Marplot said:
Should I get these "arms" for the Cimarron? I can reach out to Dixie Gun Works. What exactly should I ask?

I used to work with my friend, however he retired. So, I followed up with him. He said "There has been no issue since the initial part was replaced". Probably nothing to worry about, however he was certainly concerned at the time. I was just trying to save you some shipping cost by getting a spare at the same time.

Good luck with your purchase!

GYJ · Jan 24, 2024

Whether you get the Cimarron "original finish" or the Uberti "old west" finish, it's the same thing. You can easily strip the gun. That's the easy part but it's a lot of work to replicate their aged finish.

Here's one with the factory antique finish for $489.

https://www.gunbroker.com/Item/1027717929

Marplot · Jan 24, 2024

GYJ said:
Whether you get the Cimarron "original finish" or the Uberti "old west" finish, it's the same thing. You can easily strip the gun. That's the easy part but it's a lot of work to replicate their aged finish.

Here's one with the factory antique finish for $489.

https://www.gunbroker.com/Item/1027717929

I would have jumped on that if I had not already got the Cimarron for $538. And the Cimarron McCulloch Colt has the fluted cylinder. I like that better anyhow.

The early 1860s had fluted cylinders to save weight (?) and some of them blew up so they went back to the unfluted cylinders. So the "originals" do not have fluted.

GYJ · Jan 24, 2024

I can understand that. I got the fluted version a few months ago to have converted to cartridge but saved the fluted cylinder for future use.

Marplot · Jan 24, 2024

GYJ said:
I can understand that. I got the fluted version a few months ago to have converted to cartridge but saved the fluted cylinder for future use.

Tell me about the cartridge version. Will the cartridge cylinder fit my pistol?

Arkansas Paul · Jan 24, 2024

Marplot said:
The early 1860s had fluted cylinders to save weight (?) and some of them blew up so they went back to the unfluted cylinders. So the "originals" do not have fluted.

They didn't make many with fluted cylinders in the originals either. I think 5 or 6k was all that was produced.

45D · Jan 24, 2024

Marplot said:
Tell me about the cartridge version. Will the cartridge cylinder fit my pistol?

It's chambered for 45acp and has a coil sprung action. The cylinder is a Kirst gated conversion. Pretty extensive "arbor out", ground up rebuild. Complete action tune with action stop, bolt block, interference pins (to keep action screws from loosening), adjustable in frame trigger stop, corrected arbor length for a .0025" endshake, captured wedge, hardened "firing plate" in hammer face, custom 2 fingered hand, and other custom features.

His is capable of firing +p loads.

Mike

Marplot · Jan 24, 2024

45D said:
It's chambered for 45acp and has a coil sprung action. The cylinder is a Kirst gated conversion. Pretty extensive "arbor out", ground up rebuild. Complete action tune with action stop, bolt block, interference pins (to keep action screws from loosening), adjustable in frame trigger stop, corrected arbor length for a .0025" endshake, captured wedge, hardened "firing plate" in hammer face, custom 2 fingered hand, and other custom features.

His is capable of firing +p loads.

Mike

Sounds a little bit more complicated than just a "drop in."

45D · Jan 24, 2024

Marplot said:
Sounds a little bit more complicated than just a "drop in."

Oh, it can be as complicated as you want to get . . . just as any custom. Some folks are happy with a bone stock Blackhawk, some send them to high end smiths for a 5 shot high end build.
I was just telling you about his cartridge conversion. Yours could very well be a drop in but I wouldn't shoot anything other than "standard" ammo.
"Kirst Konversions" has several possibilities for you. Walt's products are top notch!!!

Mike

45D · Jan 25, 2024

GYJ said:
I can understand that. I got the fluted version a few months ago to have converted to cartridge but saved the fluted cylinder for future use.

Sorry sir, didn't mean to steal your thunder ( couldn't help myself!!

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GYJ · Jan 25, 2024

45D said:
Sorry sir, didn't mean to steal your thunder ( couldn't help myself!! )

I thought it was pretty funny. Saved me a lot of typing.

Marplot · Jan 27, 2024

Cimarron Colt McCullough 1860 SAA has arrived. Looks good with the antique finish, but the grips are beat up. Is that a part of the "antiquing?" Or damaged?

Spaxspore · Jan 27, 2024

Normal they did the same with mine.

Note the marks on the grips they do that to also "age" them

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