1General_Grant
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You actually can confirm if it's unloaded, drop the ramrod down the barrel. If the ramrod bounces up with a pinging sound it's unloaded.
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Eli Whitney Musket model1812 ?
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Kenn
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"Google expert" — good one! Since the old weapon has a steel ramrod, you could ascertain whether or not it's loaded by vertically standing the musket on its buttplate & inserting the ramrod 8-10 inches, then letting it drop against the breech plug. It should give a metal-on-metal clang. If it doesn't, it could have an old charge in there . . . or it could just have decades of dust & crud. Anyway, it's a suggestion.
Yep, he apparently knows little of muzzleloaders. Why shoot, Tony! You could just open the chamber . . . ! He may never arrive at a workable price. Checking on this forum is a good way to at least obtain a ballpark value. You could then determine what you want to pay for it & make a serious offer. It pays to be a Google expert, doesn't it?
Thagomizer
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The fact that he knows little about these guns tells me that he didn't pay much for it. I've been to several shows where there was a table full of modern guns and one old muzzleloader that he was selling for someone else. Twice I have made real deals under these circumstances. Make him a low ball offer and see what happens.
Kenn
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I agree. His reaction might reveal no one else has been interested. I hope it becomes another "real deal" for you. Off-chance occurrences like that are sweet indeed!
TonyF
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So I’m leaving my daughters in Virginia to fly back to Florida tomorrow morning.
I went to the pawnshop this morning to see if the store owner had posted a price on the Whitney musket.
Still no price on the tag, I ask if the owner is available and I’m told they can call him.
They get him in the phone and he says to make an offer.
I tell him the musket has been cut down and it’s missing the front barrel band and the bayonet lug.
I offer $750.
He tells me he wants $4000!
I’m kinda speechless , I don’t know whether to laugh or what ?
I started to say something then caught myself and said , ok well I guess that settles that.
The clerk gets off the phone and comes over and quietly that the musket will be probably be there forever .
Who the hell knows what that guy is thinking?
So I’m still on the hunt !
Thanks to everyone who commented or gave input !
Happy Labor Day weekend!!
I went to the pawnshop this morning to see if the store owner had posted a price on the Whitney musket.
Still no price on the tag, I ask if the owner is available and I’m told they can call him.
They get him in the phone and he says to make an offer.
I tell him the musket has been cut down and it’s missing the front barrel band and the bayonet lug.
I offer $750.
He tells me he wants $4000!
I’m kinda speechless , I don’t know whether to laugh or what ?
I started to say something then caught myself and said , ok well I guess that settles that.
The clerk gets off the phone and comes over and quietly that the musket will be probably be there forever .
Who the hell knows what that guy is thinking?
So I’m still on the hunt !
Thanks to everyone who commented or gave input !
Happy Labor Day weekend!!
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1General_Grant
40 Cal
Wow, yea that guy had no clue what he's talking about. Plenty of nicer 1816s that are full length on Gunbroker for a much better price, I would check there if you really want one.
TonyF
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Yea, I’m going to keep my eye on the Guns for sale forums and be patient and hopefully pickup a nice example.
Conquerordie
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It was a $400 dollar gun at best. He did you a favor. Watch the online auctions. Converted M1816's and such come up all the time. You'll be able to find one that is unaltered for what you offered or a little more.
Kenn
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I'd need to have personally inspected the musket, but based on what I've read, I'd have offered him $250 (with a ceiling of $300). I realise that's probably low. IF I was interested in purchasing tho & based on the alterations we know have been done (including the missing barrel band), I'd view the musket as a cool piece of history that's probably been thru many owners & even more shooters. It's travelled a rough road, & I'd willingly put it to rest for $250.
The present owner is apparently willing to wait what probably will be a very long time until someone with bulging pockets & "lollipop" written on his forehead comes along. I'd sign off by thanking him for his time & info & that would essentially be that. So glad you weren't taken for a ride along a bumpy road. Safe flight to the Sunshine State!
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He's 'full of it', as they say...let it go and get on with life!!
TonyF
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It’s already a distant memory.
I’ve learned to not sweat the small stuff!
I’ve learned to not sweat the small stuff!
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