NEW T/C Hawkens!

Smokey Plainsman · Aug 29, 2024

Just found out the recently resurrected Thompson Center arms company is going to start producing Hawkens again.

The owner of the company stated this on a recent Hornady podcast. Also, on the Thompson Center YouTube channel the owner is showing lots of support to commenters asking for new Hawkens.

Just thought I’d share!

-Smokey

Phil Coffins · Aug 29, 2024

They made good product back in the day, hope they make one up to todays standards.

TechMoron · Aug 29, 2024

IF they actually do, get ready for a little sticker shock when ya see the price on it.

PEARL DRUMS · Aug 29, 2024

I'd guess $1200 minimum, if they are made here. $750 if made elsewhere.

TechMoron · Aug 29, 2024

PEARL DRUMS said:
I'd guess $1200 minimum, if they are made here. $750 if made elsewhere.

And I'd say that's a conservative estimate.

AlexB · Aug 29, 2024

Nice I am waiting on a nib big boar should be here next week.

BoomStick · Aug 29, 2024

Would be nice to see a USA made production gun. Likely the timeline for this depends on how much of the tooling was kept by Smith and Wesson. They were able to start up the encore line pretty quickly with some existing machinery at subcontractors and from S&W, as well as a cache of leftover parts. But I'm also betting they're going to be pricey and may not be an entry price point for new shooters.

nchawkeye · Aug 29, 2024

Never had much need for a percussion gun. If they are $1,200, you would be much better off with a Kibler.

leadhoarder · Aug 29, 2024

nchawkeye said:
Never had much need for a percussion gun. If they are $1,200, you would be much better off with a Kibler.

They do not market to the same buyer. One is a production percussion rifle and the other a kit to make a flintlock rifle.

There are many on here that have lots of time and are good to fine craftsmen. Others have no time and are all thumbs.

yellowhammer · Aug 29, 2024

Smokey Plainsman said:
Just found out the recently resurrected Thompson Center arms company is going to start producing Hawkens again.

-Smokey

Smokey, can you provide a link? On Facebook I see a "new" encore is coming, but I see no mention of a hawken anywhere.

cynthialee · Aug 29, 2024

While this is good news there is no way they are going to sell a new rifle for less than a grand.
I think the 1200 guess is likely.

But will they back their products with a similar guarantee as the old company did back in the day.

Kind of concerned that they will go and make the new guns incompatible with the old guns. Betcha won't be able to slap an old lock in one of their new guns. Just a gut feeling, I have nothing to go on really other than my knowledge of corporate greed.

ChuckJonesWagon · Aug 30, 2024

Price points will likely be determined by estimated demand, and of course cost to manufacture one. So, if it cost (direct and indirect cost) of say $500 to build one, and say that other non-manufacturing cost (Sales, shipping, management wages, etc) are $1-million.

If they price the product at $800, they need to sell ($1,000,000\$300)= 3,333 units to break even. If they price them at say $1,000\unit then they need to sell ($1,000,000\$500)= 2,000 units to break even.

The math is bigger and a tad more complex than this, but those manufacturer accountants are pretty good at this stuff.

Paul Kenney · Aug 30, 2024

Glad I kept my TC .45 Hawken in good shape. Have not shot it for several years but I''m getting ready to get back in the BP shooting game

Paul Kenney · Aug 30, 2024

Smokey Plainsman said:
Just found out the recently resurrected Thompson Center arms company is going to start producing Hawkens again.

The owner of the company stated this on a recent Hornady podcast. Also, on the Thompson Center YouTube channel the owner is showing lots of support to commenters asking for new Hawkens.

Just thought I’d share!

-Smokey

https://www.americanhunter.org/cont...ew-firearms-in-years-go-on-sale-this-october/

Smokey Plainsman · Aug 30, 2024

Paul Kenney said:
Glad I kept my TC .45 Hawken in good shape. Have not shot it for several years but I''m getting ready to get back in the BP shooting game

Paul,

Welcome home brother.

yellowhammer · Aug 30, 2024

Paul Kenney said:
https://www.americanhunter.org/cont...ew-firearms-in-years-go-on-sale-this-october/

That article does not mention Hawken. Only inlines.

tallPercshooter · Aug 30, 2024

The used market is full of TCs sidelocks from $350 to $800. Older quality USA made. Not sure a new one at twice the price could compete.

BS2366 · Aug 30, 2024

TechMoron said:
IF they actually do, get ready for a little sticker shock when ya see the price on it.

Just like everything else these days.

Phil Coffins · Aug 30, 2024

When I bought my first muzzleloader in the early 1970s it seemed to be a fair amount of money. At that time I was a railroad pipe fitter and making better than average wages of about $7.00 an hour. Today’s entry level wags are considerably higher so as we all should know buying a decent muzzleloader will cost more then the bottom of the barrel that bring over $400 and up.

Dave Marsh · Aug 30, 2024

Smokey, what is the number of the Hornady podcast where Greg ritz says he is going to bring back the Hawken?

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