Unfortunately, they are commonplace trying to appeal to younger buyers, I guess.
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What I'm saying is, stick to originals to make the replicas. You can't improve some things.
I totally agree
flatcreek
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I don't think I would go as far as forging the barrel and casting the lock parts. Just get a slab or pre carve half stock and the other parts you need and have at it. I have a hard time finding a rifle with all the components I like. I really like the Kibler woodsrunner, but I like iron furniture.
I have one in .50 cal. Its also in good shape. An excellent shooter for sure!
I agree. As much as I love my old T//C,s and still keep them going with my supply of parts for each why would I burn a grand plus for something when I have the tools that do it now.
Although I know I would love to build that special Kibler.
The thing is with Kibler Locks and parts is that they are so refined one has to do very little to make a lock that will spark a lifetime.
If you take the other guys products et al there is lots of work that has to go into it to get it right...there are so many on here that do just that..they produce works of art so to speak.
But you have a lock that is subjected to the same wear and tear as everything else and when it breaks unless you are a superb craftsman youre dead in the water.
Kibler has basically solved that issue.
It would be far easier for some to find parts for a kibler and even stock up on them than it would be to find and order parts for their p-soli that they shoot and wear out.
Dont get me wrong but getting support for your Italian, your Lyman your TC and such are all but drying up now..or take a massive amount of your time to find what you need.
If you take the other guys products et al there is lots of work that has to go into it to get it right...there are so many on here that do just that..they produce works of art so to speak.
But you have a lock that is subjected to the same wear and tear as everything else and when it breaks unless you are a superb craftsman youre dead in the water.
Kibler has basically solved that issue.
It would be far easier for some to find parts for a kibler and even stock up on them than it would be to find and order parts for their p-soli that they shoot and wear out.
Dont get me wrong but getting support for your Italian, your Lyman your TC and such are all but drying up now..or take a massive amount of your time to find what you need.
I got the feeling he really wasn't all that interested in side locks, and might get around to the Hawken after he had established his modern in-line muzzle loaders.
John Smith IV
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"Vegan"; Comanche for 'white man who not handy at anything'.
Me too. I felt he was catering to Ethan given his background. We will see.
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What's the value of an original unfired .45 T/C Hawken
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I bought a Renegade 54 ca. left hand lock years ago and shot it for awhile, then it became a closet gun and after about 15 yrs. I sent it off to a gunsmith friend. He reline the barrel to .36 cal. and it became my small critter gritter. It went back in my gun closet when I found a nice J.M. Browning in .45 cal. It went into my gun closet when I got hooked on BPCR. I need to pull out them front loaders out and choot 'em or find some one who would enjoy them. Just turned 80 and my interest has waned.
Some perspective on build time.
I opened my kit from The Hawken Shop on March 8, and completed the rifle on April 18. I am retired, have a great deal of woodworking experience including decoy carving, boat and furniture building and one Beck County flintlock. I had the tools and the time.
Whether you build a kit from Kibler, or one from THS, it will be yours and something to be proud of.
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Don Steele
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Then there’s me…I have all the time in the world and can take a thousand dollar kit and produce a five hundred dollar rifle.
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