William Sublette
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Well done flint plains rifles are as good as it gets.
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Kibler has announced a Hawken Kit in the works.
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Mike in FL
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I know, I have one. My best shooter. But Jim Kibler won't stray from period correct.
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I think there might have been a flint Hawken early on. They just haven’t been found. The time period suggests that possibility.
If he’s looking for an original to study then this project is a good ways off from completion. I’d guess 2 years. You may disagree but we’ve been hearing about the upcoming fowler for a long time. I’m not judging or complaining, just reasoning with the data at hand. Unlike the fowler this will require a new lock. New double set triggers. New breech design. CNC-ing a Hawken tang and standing breech is not falling off a log-easy. The Hawken is a commercial venture quite far from everything Jim has done so remarkably well so far. Just advising to be realistic, maybe it could be out in 2025. I have no inside info, am just reasoning here.
He will have to do what he did with the SMR, reduce weight a lot from originals which often run in the 10-11 pound range. SMR and Hawken originals were usually VERY heavy guns. Of course buyers are fine with that, they don’t want a truly accurate representation as much as they want a handy gun with outstanding lines, fit, finish, and function. I’m sure it will be a dandy.
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Regarding the new Fowler, Jim stated in the new video last week that the Fowler kits would be out in 1st quarter 2024.
In the olden days of L&R they made a Hawken Flintlock.
It was actually a late period English style
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Not a gun but just got an email that Kibler is now selling leather hunting bags as a kit.
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No shortage of proof ref J&S Hawken Flintlock Rifles, albeit in full stocks.
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I missed this question, but here is the “squirrel rifle” as displayed at the J M Davis museum in Claremore, OK:
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My connection isn’t cooperating with posting pictures.
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(Joke) I ordered a bag kit once, and FedEx left a live cow tied up to a tree in my yard!
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