Permethrin mixture ratio…….

ETipp · Oct 4, 2024

For those of you that treats your hunting attire with permethrin concentrate, what is the mixture ratio you use?

I have some permethrin for animals and I have no idea how I should mix it.

ScottK · Oct 4, 2024

ETipp said:
For those of you that treats your hunting attire with permethrin concentrate, what is the mixture ratio you use?

I have some permethrin for animals and I have no idea how I should mix it.

If you don’t get an answer sooner, I can check when I get home from work tonight.

I’m not sure if the animal and human concentrates are at different strengths, so I don’t want to be responsible for your skin peeling off

ChuckJonesWagon · Oct 4, 2024

How much you cut it depends upon the % that is in the concentrate. For example (see my chart below) for effective % it should be .5%. (One-half of 1%)

Years ago I bought an Ortho product that was 2.5%. So, to get it to the .50% I needed to cut it 1 part Ortho to 5 parts water.

Then I bought a product for animals. It was 10% concentrate. So, to get it to the .50% I needed to cut it 1 part product and 20 parts water.

ETipp · Oct 4, 2024

ScottK said:
If you don’t get an answer sooner, I can check when I get home from work tonight.

I’m not sure if the animal and human concentrates are at different strengths, so I don’t want to be responsible for your skin peeling off

Well, I’ve been told so many times in my life, by so many females, that I’m an animal, usually with an adjective included (horny dog, disgusting pig, dumb *******, etc) that I just about have to believe it’s true. So, I doubt that would be a problem.

ETipp · Oct 4, 2024

ChuckJonesWagon said:
How much you cut it depends upon the % that is in the concentrate. For example (see my chart below) for effective % it should be .5%. (One-half of 1%)

Years ago I bought an Ortho product that was 2.5%. So, to get it to the .50% I needed to cut it 1 part Ortho to 5 parts water.

Then I bought a product for animals. It was 10% concentrate. So, to get it to the .50% I needed to cut it 1 part product and 20 parts water.

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I’ll have to go out to my garage and get the bottle to see what percentage it is.

ChuckJonesWagon · Oct 4, 2024

I just realized by looking at that Ortho date that I've been using Permethrin for 16 years now. And not to change my luck, but I've not had to dig out a tick in all those years.

ScottK · Oct 4, 2024

You want the clothing application to be a .5% solution. My concentrate is 10% so I go 19 parts water to 1 part concentrate.

ChuckJonesWagon · Oct 4, 2024

ScottK said:
You want the clothing application to be a .5% solution. My concentrate is 10% so I go 19 parts water to 1 part concentrate.

Your math is actually spot on as opposed to my 20 parts water to 1 part concentrate. My actual percentage would be 4.762%.....but honestly, I mix it up in an OZ marked bottle and get as close as I can.

So, depending on the mix I could be 19\1, 20\1, or 21\1. But it kills the ticks or makes them leave me alone.

ETipp · Oct 4, 2024

ChuckJonesWagon said:
Your math is actually spot on as opposed to my 20 parts water to 1 part concentrate. My actual percentage would be 4.762%.....but honestly, I mix it up in an OZ marked bottle and get as close as I can.

So, depending on the mix I could be 19\1, 20\1, or 21\1. But it kills the ticks or makes them leave me alone.

It’s not 10%. It’s stronger but with help from a good friend I think we got it.

Caterpillar Hunter · Oct 4, 2024

The Martin's brand permethrin we just bought is a 10% concentrate. We mix it 1 part concentrated permethrin plus 19 parts water (1 part in a total of 20) for a 0.5% solution.

Make sure you get aqueous, not petroleum based. You don't want the smell of the petroleum based product.

bud in pa · Oct 4, 2024

I just buy a can of Repel from Wally World or Tractor supply.

ETipp · Oct 5, 2024

bud in pa said:
I just buy a can of Repel from Wally World or Tractor supply.

Not a good combination for deer hunting.

ETipp · Oct 5, 2024

Caterpillar Hunter said:
The Martin's brand permethrin we just bought is a 10% concentrate. We mix it 1 part concentrated permethrin plus 19 parts water (1 part in a total of 20) for a 0.5% solution.

Make sure you get aqueous, not petroleum based. You don't want the smell of the petroleum based product.

Great. Petroleum based is what this is. Looks like I need to go find a different kind.

Horizontal Hunter · Oct 5, 2024

ETipp said:
It’s not 10%. It’s stronger but with help from a good friend I think we got it.

Don’t think be sure. It is a pesticide. Make sure that you keep it off your skin as it is absorbed through the skin.

ETipp said:
Great. Petroleum based is what this is. Looks like I need to go find a different kind.

I have been using the petroleum based for decades without an issue. I don’t care what you do you will never beat a deers nose. Hunt the wind and don’t worry about it.

After I spray my clothing and it drys well I do wash it to remove any excess that isn’t bound to the fabric and to my nose there isn’t a residual odor once it dries.

Bob

ETipp · Oct 5, 2024

Horizontal Hunter said:
Don’t think be sure. It is a pesticide. Make sure that you keep it off your skin as it is absorbed through the skin.

I have been using the petroleum based for decades without an issue. I don’t care what you do you will never beat a deers nose. Hunt the wind and don’t worry about it.

After I spray my clothing and it drys well I do wash it to remove any excess that isn’t bound to the fabric and to my nose there isn’t a residual odor once it dries.

Bob

Thank you for the reply, Bob. However, I beg to differ, in terms of a deers sense of smell. Being an avid bow hunter for many years, I have learned how to beat their noses, and that’s here in the mountains where the wind direction can and does change from one minute to the next. Downdrafts are common as well. There are ways to do it but spraying oneself down with something that has a definite odor to it is not one of them.

Hunting the wind is a definite (for flatlanders) but that does not help much in the mountains, especially while walking in and leaving scent on everything that touches clothing. I have become quite successful overall at beating deer's noses over the years, thus my rationale for not using Permethrin long ago. I use no commercial, spray, scent control products on my hunting attire and I simply do not get busted.

I reckon I’ll try to find some Permethrin with no petroleum base to it. According to research, it is not supposed to have any smell to it. However, I still have my doubts.

ChuckJonesWagon · Oct 5, 2024

I too have been using the petroleum based Permethrin for years. I only ground hunt. I've killed some of the biggest bucks in my life over the last ten years.

If you already have the petroleum base, use it. Spray it on your clothing and let it dry. DO NOT spray it on your skin.

ETipp · Oct 5, 2024

ChuckJonesWagon said:
I too have been using the petroleum based Permethrin for years. I only ground hunt. I've killed some of the biggest bucks in my life over the last ten years.

If you already have the petroleum base, use it. Spray it on your clothing and let it dry. DO NOT spray it on your skin.

Thanks for your input but I’m not using it. I’ll wait until I get some water based or do without. As a hard core bow hunter, it’s common to have deer within a very few feet from me. I hunt the thick stuff so I’m not about to take a chance on this one.

Horizontal Hunter · Oct 5, 2024

ETipp said:
Thank you for the reply, Bob. However, I beg to differ, in terms of a deers sense of smell. Being an avid bow hunter for many years, I have learned how to beat their noses, and that’s here in the mountains where the wind direction can and does change from one minute to the next. Downdrafts are common as well. There are ways to do it but spraying oneself down with something that has a definite odor to it is not one of them.

Hunting the wind is a definite (for flatlanders) but that does not help much in the mountains, especially while walking in and leaving scent on everything that touches clothing. I have become quite successful overall at beating deer's noses over the years, thus my rationale for not using Permethrin long ago. I use no commercial, spray, scent control products on my hunting attire and I simply do not get busted.

I reckon I’ll try to find some Permethrin with no petroleum base to it. According to research, it is not supposed to have any smell to it. However, I still have my doubts.

I would love to earn your secret. For me it is using milk week and watching where the thermals take my scent.

IIRC Martins makes a 10% concentration is water based. Try Agway, Tractor Supply and the like in your area.

Good hunting.

Bob

ChuckJonesWagon · Oct 5, 2024

ETipp said:
Thanks for your input but I’m not using it. I’ll wait until I get some water based or do without. As a hard core bow hunter, it’s common to have deer within a very few feet from me. I hunt the thick stuff so I’m not about to take a chance on this one.

I understand. I was out today, sitting on my chair. I had two bucks, one to my left and the other to my right...both within ten feet and neither knew I was there. I didn't shoot either one......I'm waiting for their big brother to come by.

vintovka · Oct 5, 2024

bud in pa said:
I just buy a can of Repel from Wally World or Tractor supply.

Forget Tractor Supply like millions of others.

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