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buzzard said:
This is in the firing position not far enough back to set off a cap
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Just a thought… the hammer screw is slightly buggered suggesting the hammer may have been removed. Start with the hammer in the full cock position as your photo shows. If you can remove the screw and the hammer, rotate the hammer back 1/4 turn from where it was mounted , put it back on the square tumbler stud, put the screw back and try it. Quite possible may have been reassembled wrong after cleaning. Hopefully it may just work perfectly .Best of luck.
Snoot
 
It still appears the nipple is not completely seated.. Bye 1/16 or 1/8 “ .

At the highlighted area.
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It could be the wrong nipple and bottoming out in the snell.

A shorter nipple would give you a little more travel on the hammer fall.

Does the lock have a coil mainspring?
 
For sure correct hammer. Do remove the lock and look at the half cock and full cock sear positions on the tumbler. This may be buggered up. I have found the these pistols have excessive mainspring pressure and the flintlock versions are flint wrecking frizzen bouncers. Could be same with that and it has sear notch wiped out. Probably not the correct place to be posting this advice, you may wish to start a new thread in the appropriate area.
 
I think something is assembled incorrectly too. I am not an expert but between nipple not screwed in and something incorrectly installed inside this might be all that is wrong.
 
Im sorry..... have not been on here for personal reasons . The gun shot perfect every time . Bought on here and previous owner can testify . Never failed to lock or shoot .so many ignorant comments on here .if your not personally familiar with gun in question the butt out ! Gun may have been compromised after the sale . Im in talks with buzzard now . Im as honest as they come .nothing worse than busy bodies with nothing to do but gossip !
 
Tim sandwich took it out of the box and tried 2 Caps on it and it didn't set either one off . Titen the nipple and tried 2 more Caps with no luck.
 
Tin sandwich said:
Im sorry..... have not been on here for personal reasons . The gun shot perfect every time . Bought on here and previous owner can testify . Never failed to lock or shoot .so many ignorant comments on here .if your not personally familiar with gun in question the butt out ! Gun may have been compromised after the sale . Im in talks with buzzard now . Im as honest as they come .nothing worse than busy bodies with nothing to do but gossip !
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People were trying to help him. What in the $&@? are you rambling on about?!?!

And the fact that you were not around and people tried to help and now you’re on the attack?

I’m not expecting you to understand.

Ignore button, here I come.
 
Tin sandwich said:
Im sorry..... have not been on here for personal reasons . The gun shot perfect every time . Bought on here and previous owner can testify . Never failed to lock or shoot .so many ignorant comments on here .if your not personally familiar with gun in question the butt out ! Gun may have been compromised after the sale . Im in talks with buzzard now . Im as honest as they come .nothing worse than busy bodies with nothing to do but gossip !
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Here’s what I’m seeing. These two angles (red lines) look too far out of alignment to be aligned by the last bit of hammer travel. If you look close in the zoomed photo you can see a gap (yellow arrow). If you can rotate that part counter clockwise (white arrow) to close that gap it may create enough straight alignment to fire off the cap.

My guess is the hammer is hitting the edge of the cap/nipple and not driving the hammer straight down compressing the caps charge between the hammer and nipple, causing the no fire condition.

It would also make sense that the directional force of the repeated hammer impact would shift that part forward into its current position. As in if it did happen to be able to move, that’s exactly where it would end up…causing this exact problem…and leaving a visible gap in the exact spot there is one.

I have no idea how this gun is assembled but I think the likelihood that this part is a threaded insert would be high. If so, this rotation theory would be a possible culprit.
 

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buzzard said:
Tim sandwich took it out of the box and tried 2 Caps on it and it didn't set either one off . Titen the nipple and tried 2 more Caps with no luck.
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I’m wondering if the nipple is too short for some reason. Maybe find some medium that’s easily compressible, like clay or even a smushed up piece of bread.

Place a small piece on the nipple and lower the hammer onto it and see how far it has compressed over the nipple.

I’d imagine it would need to be at least nearly completely cut through to be contacting the cap enough to set it off. If that piece of clay/bread or whatever you come up with isn’t completely…or close to completely severed then maybe the nipple is too short or the hammer isn’t falling far enough.

This test would also show you how well the alignment is of the two surfaces. Ideally the medium would be compressed evenly.

If it’s thicker on one side and thinner on the other it could be a sign of an alignment issue, which could be an indicator of the drum rotation or possibly the nipple being too short or the hammer travel being too short.
 
Thank you all for the input on trying to figure out. But the seller thinks I'm a scammer person. So I'm stuck with it after all . I will not ever purchase from this seller again.
 
buzzard said:
I purchased a gun that doesn't work and I'm out the money for it and the seller said I'm a scammer person 😔 😳
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Well if it’s between a complete loss and a complete loss send me the gun. I’ll try and get it running for free and I’ll ship it back to you on my own dime…maybe “someone” here needs a lesson on what being a good honest person looks like 👍
 
Dexis said:
Well if it’s between a complete loss and a complete loss send me the gun. I’ll try and get it running for free and I’ll ship it back to you on my own dime…maybe “someone” here needs a lesson on what being a good honest person looks like 👍
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Thank you very much for your help and if you want a go at it I will send it to you
 

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