Rear sight for Kibler Fowler

BigAl52 · Oct 23, 2024

Is there anyway a rear sight can be added to Kiblers Fowler? Ive never owned a smoothie or shot one. Im thinking of getting one but I would probably shoot more RB out of mine than anything else. Maybe Im making a mistake and should just get a rifled gun. But seeing and reading how much fun they are has peaked my interest. Im wondering how one shoots one with RB and only a front sight. Im sure there is a learning curve on where to hold it on target.

2 shots · Oct 23, 2024

maybe get a smooth rifle :thumb:

Buff1958 · Oct 23, 2024

i put a peep on mine, like the one i put on my colonial

RiverRat · Oct 23, 2024

At the CLA show in Kentucky several years ago, they had an excellent full room display of original mls. Most of the Fowlers had rear sights! I never could figure out why rear sights on Fowlers were not allowed in competition. Not trying to start an argument here but there is plenty of room on the rear of the barrel to have a dovetail cut in. Or like Buff said, get a peep sight for the tang screw. There is a forum member here who makes and sells a good looking sight.

Larry (Omaha) · Oct 23, 2024

BigAl52 said:
Is there anyway a rear sight can be added to Kiblers Fowler? Ive never owned a smoothie or shot one. Im thinking of getting one but I would probably shoot more RB out of mine than anything else. Maybe Im making a mistake and should just get a rifled gun. But seeing and reading how much fun they are has peaked my interest. Im wondering how one shoots one with RB and only a front sight. Im sure there is a learning curve on where to hold it on target.

That is so simple: Call Kibler, tell them your intentions/questions and they will do all they can to help you.

Larry

BigAl52 · Oct 23, 2024

Buff1958 said:
i put a peep on mine, like the one i put on my colonial

Did you make that yourself or buy it from a member? I like it and it looks great

French Colonial · Oct 24, 2024

You do not need one, you may want one but you don't need one.

First, if you learn what your sight picture should be, how much of the barrel you should see, where the front sight should be in relation to the rear of the barrel, you can be very accurate without a rear sight.

Second, if you do the above, at the distances a smooth bore is accurate you will be fine.

Third, if you ever plan on shooting in a match the rear sights are probably not going to be allowed.

Eric Krewson · Oct 24, 2024

I put one on my fowler, I don't shoot my fowler enough to get proficient with just a front sight, I don't shoot competition. I made the sight out of a piece of angle iron.

I want to be on when the adrenalin is pumping in a pressure cooker hunting situation, my rear sight takes care of that. My fowler is primarily a jug choked turkey gun; the sight lets me know exactly where the tight pattern is going to hit.

The neck shot is a finisher from about 25 yards, with a rear sight my fowler is more accurate, he ducked when the pan flashed and I spined him.

Rancocas · Oct 24, 2024

I've been a shotgunner since the 1950's. No rear sight. I suppose that experience can explain why I have no problem with my fowler. I do use the tang screw for a guide to help line up with the front bead, but I have learned to use my truly historical replica fowler with only the front sight, just as it was originally designed. I do shoot round ball more than shot and have taken deer with it, no problem.
Of course, I acknowledge that a rear sight could help. But my fowler didn't come with one and I'm sticking to the original.

BigAl52 · Oct 24, 2024

Thanks @French Colonial and @Rancocas for the insight. Im sure its a matter of just going out and trying it without one and like anything else new there is a learning curve. Nice buck with yours Eric

acavdragoon · Oct 24, 2024

https://www.claysmithguns.com/finishing_supplies.htm

Mike in FL · Oct 24, 2024

Me, I would not want a fowler without a rear sight. With roundballs, I can't see that the full accuracy potential of the long gun could be realized without a rear sight. Maybe Kibler could add that when you order. If not, I would at least find out if it might be done on your own. Hunting shots are too valuable to screw up for lack of a rear sight. There are those experienced shooter's who say we don't need them, but we are not they. Want our need it, get it. I believe in that to the point of rejecting one seller for another.

Hatman/2nd line · Oct 24, 2024

I have one on my smooth bore Colonial in .54 and can get 3" groups at 30yds, haven't had a chance to check it out further.

Leatherbark · Oct 24, 2024

Glue you a rear sight on to temporarily try it first. Mainly just to see if it tightens the group for you (don't worry about point of impact yet). If you decide one is for you then before I would file a dovetail, I would solder it to the barrel flat so it can be undone someday.

Bob

Mike in FL · Oct 24, 2024

Never had a smooth bore so I've no credentials or authority to say that it seems that a rear sight would have to help with round ball accuracy. If nothing else, would it not provide consistency, thereby telling the user if he needed further load development or not? And if he had plenty of front sight height, could he not adjust by filing for the best vertical group? Even with shot, he might be able to adjust his overall pattern hit location. Think of it this way: a man buys a smooth rifle with rifle sights. He uses his sights to adjust his roundball groups to center. Another shooter gets the rifle except without the rear sight. Will this second man get as good a roundball group as the first man did?
I might be way off with that because I know nearly nothing of shooting a fowler. I'd sure like to learn before investing. What a terrific thing to have one gun to use for everything. In my life I've never killed a deer beyond 50 yards, almost always much closer.

Buff1958 · Oct 24, 2024

BigAl52 said:
Did you make that yourself or buy it from a member? I like it and it looks great

Bought it here from Tom A Hawk

smoothshooter · Oct 24, 2024

Eric Krewson said:
I put one on my fowler, I don't shoot my fowler enough to get proficient with just a front sight, I don't shoot competition. I made the sight out of a piece of angle iron.

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I want to be on when the adrenalin is pumping in a pressure cooker hunting situation, my rear sight takes care of that. My fowler is primarily a jug choked turkey gun; the sight lets me know exactly where the tight pattern is going to hit.

The neck shot is a finisher from about 25 yards, with a rear sight my fowler is more accurate, he ducked when the pan flashed and I spined him.

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Like the stock profile of that gun. What kind/type is it?

Eric Krewson · Oct 25, 2024

It is a 12 ga English Fowler I made from full the sized plans TOW sells.

Fred Miller inletted the barrel and drilled the ramrod hole, I did the rest.

Back from Fred;

Making a cardboard pattern;

Done;

Rear sight for Kibler Fowler

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