My, my … now THOSE are bigguns!

Flint62Smoothie · Oct 27, 2024

Big black powder shoot today. We had a flintlock wall gun, 4 bore, the ball weigh 4 ounces and are almost 1” in diameter.

We were shooting 300-grain loads. I also had my swivel gone, shooting golf balls with 400-grain loads.

Then left to right … a 32, 54, 75 & 4-Bore roundballs.

FYI, the wall gun owner wants to sell it …

Then we had the BIG Swede, courtesy @rickystl, a 1600s Swedish ‘Snaplock’, a lock design using flint for ignition, but maybe prior or around the development of the Snaphaunce or Spanish Miquelet, but definitely almost 100-years before the true French Flintlock.

She is a 75-cal of 46” barrel & NOBODY there had ever seen, never mind heard, of such a beast! She looks ungainly, but the stock design firstly is intriguing and it holds really, really well, even offhand!

Oh, this was my 1st time firing it & my 1st shot and EVERY shot fired afterwards … hit the 10” metal gong @ 50-yards, all offhand to boot!

stubshaft · Oct 27, 2024

AWESOME! Love big bores, but an eight bore is the biggest I own.

BillinOregon · Oct 28, 2024

You guys have ALL the fun, Dale!

Rancocas · Oct 28, 2024

I had an opportunity to buy a wall gun quite a few years back, but at that time I couldn't justify the cost. I don't remember what the guy was asking for it, but it was far above what I could afford then. I've been kicking myself in the rear ever since because I didn't get it.

olskool · Oct 28, 2024

here is one my friend mulebrain has. he brought it over to my cabin and range one day for some fun. it is only a 50 cal. but heavy! it is an under hammer and was made in the 50s i think. i can't remember any other particulars, you will have to click on the blue view to see,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
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Rancocas · Oct 28, 2024

olskool said:
here is one my friend mulebrain has. he brought it over to my cabin and range one day for some fun. it is only a 50 cal. but heavy! it is an under hammer and was made in the 50s i think. i can't remember any other particulars, you will have to click on the blue view to see,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
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I think you misunderstand exactly what a "wall gun" is.

The Miner '49er · Oct 28, 2024

@Flint62Smoothie, great post with a video bonus, thanks. Please post pics and a video clip, if you have one, of your golf ball swivelgonne. I don't know what this is, just saw the pic online, but it looks like fun, too.

Flint62Smoothie · Oct 28, 2024

The Miner '49er said:
Please post pics and a video clip, if you have one, of your golf ball swivelgonne. I don't know what this is, just saw the pic online, but it looks like fun, too.

Right here: https://www.muzzleloadingforum.com/threads/swivel-gonne-fun-fore.185483/

One uber COOL thing about these ... they are $100s LESS than a musket! Even less than a 'Made in India' musket!

rickystl · Oct 28, 2024

Flint: Good Shoot'n !!!! I knew this gun was going to a good home. I remember it did indeed hold/point well for a 10-lb. gun. The build quality was first rate. It's such a great example of an early 1600 transition to flint ignition. What's also interesting is the butt stock design. It seems during that period there was as much experimentation with different butt stock designs as there was with lock designs.
Thanks so much for the photos and video. Seeing you shoot it totally made my day. And it does indeed sound like it shoots well in your hands.

Rick

Flint62Smoothie · Oct 28, 2024

Hold and follow-through baby … even with big guns and heavy loads!

Flint62Smoothie · Oct 28, 2024

More stills from the Wall Gun … me thinks the touch hole is worn out a bit …

Flint62Smoothie · Oct 28, 2024

Someone sent me this …

“The Wall Guns ordered by General Washington were MUCH heavier than that shown and were rifled. They would hit a sheet of paper at 400-yards, but note at the time a ‘sheet of paper’ may have been 4+ times the size of a typical 8.5x11” letter paper we think of today; i.e., think printing press sized. These Wall Rifles would have been useful against arillerymen and other such things that were generally way out of the range of the typical 44 to 50 caliber rifle.”

TobJohn · Oct 28, 2024

Flint62Smoothie said:
Someone sent me this …

“The Wall Guns ordered by General Washington were MUCH heavier than that shown and were rifled. They would hit a sheet of paper at 400-yards, but note at the time a ‘sheet of paper’ may have been 4+ times the size of a typical 8.5x11” letter paper we think of today; i.e., think printing press sized. These Wall Rifles would have been useful against arillerymen and other such things that were generally way out of the range of the typical 44 to 50 caliber rifle.”

Ive read that them, and the earlier doppelhaken, were somewhat analogous to modern anti material rifles, due to their longer ranger and better ability to damage what they hit. Siege warfare was often trench warfare, so having something that could punch through barricades or harass artillery would certainly be helpful.

TF Black · Oct 28, 2024

Love this Dale, and congrats again on the snaplock. And good on you for shooting your stuff: seeing one in action kinda makes me want one!

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