Help With front Sight Height

morehops52 · Nov 8, 2024

I put a Williams peep sight on my T/C Hawken. With the peep bottomed out I am hitting 9 in high at 50 yds. Looking over the situation I think my solution is to install a higher front sight. My factory sight is 3/8" high measured from the top of the barrel flat to the top of the sight. After reading R Ellis post I am correcting the total height to be from the dovetail bottom to top sight at 7/16". The sight radius is 31". Of course I want to be able to raise the peep up a bit to allow for some adjustment after the new sight is in. I know I've seen some of you math wizards calculate a correct sight height before. Can someone calculate a correct height for me to (hopefully) purchase? Any other suggestions also welcome other than inletting wood.

R Ellis · Nov 8, 2024

note that when you order most sights they are measured from the bottom of the dovetail not the top of barrel

morehops52 · Nov 8, 2024

R Ellis said:
note that when you order most sights they are measured from the bottom of the dovetail not the top of barrel

Dang! I just pulled it out of the safe to measure the radius and put back. Thank you for that info. Down the basement I go.

smoothshooter · Nov 8, 2024

R Ellis said:
note that when you order most sights they are measured from the bottom of the dovetail not the top of barrel

That seems an odd practice.

Rich44 · Nov 8, 2024

Looks like .180 added to what you have now would work.

Larry (Omaha) · Nov 8, 2024

Morehops52,
https://www.dillonprecision.com/sight-correction-calculator.html
Larry

SDSmlf · Nov 8, 2024

morehops52 said:
I put a Williams peep sight on my T/C Hawken. With the peep bottomed out I am hitting 9 in high at 50 yds. Looking over the situation I think my solution is to install a higher front sight. My factory sight is 3/8" high measured from the top of the barrel flat to the top of the sight. After reading R Ellis post I am correcting the total height to be from the dovetail bottom to top sight at 7/16". The sight radius is 31". Of course I want to be able to raise the peep up a bit to allow for some adjustment after the new sight is in. I know I've seen some of you math wizards calculate a correct sight height before. Can someone calculate a correct height for me to (hopefully) purchase? Any other suggestions also welcome other than inletting wood.

Near 18 minutes of adjustment seems like quite a bit of adjustment, but it can be accomplished. I’ll save you the math and just give you the magic number of .155”. You need to in combination lower your rear sight and/or raise your front sight .155”. Figure .0172” per inch at 50 yards with a 31” sight radius.

Rich44 · Nov 8, 2024

SDSmlf said:
Near 18 minutes of adjustment seems like quite a bit of adjustment, but it can be accomplished. I’ll save you the math and just give you the magic number of .155”. You need to in combination lower your rear sight and/or raise your front sight .155”. Figure .0172” per inch at 50 yards with a 31” sight radius.

.155 will at best give him 9 inch correction, but he would like to raise peep sight slightly.

morehops52 · Nov 8, 2024

My thanks to both Omaha Larry and SDSmlf. The Dillon Precision site confirms the .155 figure. Now to go to the ML suppliers

morehops52 · Nov 8, 2024

Sorry I missed Rich44's answer too. Thanks

ckwilli · Nov 8, 2024

morehops52 said:
I put a Williams peep sight on my T/C Hawken. With the peep bottomed out I am hitting 9 in high at 50 yds. Looking over the situation I think my solution is to install a higher front sight. My factory sight is 3/8" high measured from the top of the barrel flat to the top of the sight. After reading R Ellis post I am correcting the total height to be from the dovetail bottom to top sight at 7/16". The sight radius is 31". Of course I want to be able to raise the peep up a bit to allow for some adjustment after the new sight is in. I know I've seen some of you math wizards calculate a correct sight height before. Can someone calculate a correct height for me to (hopefully) purchase? Any other suggestions also welcome other than inletting wood.

When you get a chance can you post a picture. I’ve been thinking about a Williams sight for my TC Hawken also.

R Ellis · Nov 8, 2024

smoothshooter said:
That seems an odd practice.

I found out bye ordering one the height to top of barrel and found it to short then ordered on measured from bottom of dovetail and it was correct

stubshaft · Nov 8, 2024

All of that math makes my head hurt! I order the tallest front sight available and file it down to adjust elevation.

Mike in FL · Nov 9, 2024

The T/C stocks have little drop
A too-straight stock requires higher sights like the ones that they put on at the factory. I once took the sights off of a T/C Hawken and replaced with traditional sights, the kind that go into a dovetail. I found out could not get my head low enough to see through the rear sight.

flintsteel · Nov 9, 2024

You guys are going to throw rocks at me and that’s fine and probably advisable. But back in the day I was getting new guns if the sights needed significant adjustment I’d send the barrel back to the maker, along with a sample target and they would bend the barrel accordingly. That’s the way the early gunsmiths sighted in the guns before delivery. I’ve never seen early originals with sights drifted excessively or sight height unusual. Just my worthless two cents.

LME · Nov 9, 2024

smoothshooter said:
That seems an odd practice.

All barrels are not the same thickness?

EC121 · Nov 9, 2024

I agree with Stubshaft. I have also soldered a higher blade to a low back sight.
T/C stocks are cut straight for a high scope mount.

waksupi · Nov 9, 2024

I keep a bar of 1/2" X 1/2" mild steel on hand, and make them whatever size is needed.

smo · Nov 9, 2024

Here’s a sight calculator I’ve used before that worked amazingly well.

Looks complicated but so easy, even an old redneck can do it…

Mike in FL · Nov 9, 2024

EC121 said:
I agree with Stubshaft. I have also soldered a higher blade to a low back sight.
T/C stocks are cut straight for a high scope mount.

Exactly. Thats the reason I could never warm up to them. The straight stocks just don't have the soul of a graceful, close-to-original Hawken.

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