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Commonly used here to express disgust at the way we are over-charged for just about anything that comes from outside the UK...like percussion caps. There is is one main dealer for BP supplies here in UK - Henry Krank up in South Yorkshire, almost 180 miles from me. Add to that that anything that goes snap, crackle, pop or boom - caps, primers, powder of any kind, must be collected - or sent by HAZMAT courier, and you can see that you need to be pretty much dedicated to your sport to carry on.

However, this popped up on my screen a few minutes ago, so I thought I'd share it with you guys who take great delight in getting a shipment of ten thousand #11 caps for a few dollars....enjoy.


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We're pleased to let you know that we have just restocked RWS 1075 No.11 and RWS 1075 Plus No.11 Percussion Caps.

You can view our Percussion Cap Size Comparison Chart here.

Percussion Caps can be purchased on our website, and shipped direct to your door from £30.00. The next dispatch date is Wednesday 27th November.​
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RWS 1075 No.11 Percussion Caps Pack 250​
RWS 1075 No.11 Percussion Caps Pack 250.

General use for black powder percussion pistols, rifles and shotguns using nipple of approx 4.00mm in diameter.​
£29.95​
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RWS 1075 Plus No.11 Percussion Caps Pack 250​
RWS 1075 Plus No.11 Percussion Caps Pack 250.

General use for black powder percussion pistols, rifles and shotguns using nipple of approx 4.00mm in diameter. The RWS no.1075 Plus 11 percussion caps are very hot and give you consistent shot groupings.​
£29.95​
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IMPORTANT DELIVERY INFORMATION:​
This product is classed as an explosive item and must be delivered by a special courier.

A custom delivery quote will be generated for you at checkout. Your quote will be based on your postcode and the weight of your order. Shipping starts from £30.00.

The next dispatch date is Wednesday 27th November.​
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Henry Krank & Co are the number one supplier of Muzzle Loading accessories in the UK. Shop from brands such as Pedersoli, Ox-Yoke, Swiss and more.​
 
TFoley Is it not ok to make your own caps? There are many ways to make the cups. Often very cheaply too. Could it be the priming is the problem? Is it against the law there? It really sucks to be at the mercy of someones opinion if they want to control you. The laws on gun ownership and shooting very a lot depending on the state one lives in, Here in Iowa , we have it good. Most everything is ok here .
 
n.h.schmidt said:
TFoley Is it not ok to make your own caps? There are many ways to make the cups. Often very cheaply too. Could it be the priming is the problem? Is it against the law there? It really sucks to be at the mercy of someones opinion if they want to control you. The laws on gun ownership and shooting very a lot depending on the state one lives in, Here in Iowa , we have it good. Most everything is ok here .
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Making caps is pretty easy if the components are available..

They are here in the states
 
SDSmlf said:
Who might be the ‘number two’ supplier of Muzzle Loading accessories in the UK? Or does your one main dealer have no competition?
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Nope. As THE Pedersoli and Uberti main importer, they've got it all pretty much tied up. Everything I'll ever seen, gun-wise, has been either suppled by them to the dealer concerned, or is second-hand. Of course there are a VERY large number of militaria and genuine antique dealerships, some of international repute, but they are not interested in supplying new-made replications or shooting supplies of any kind.

I have no idea who imports percussion caps here, either. Id hazard a guess that it is whoever imports ammunition on a large scale, but even that seems to be climbing in price like a rocket taking off - last year we saw the first £100/C .303 British ammunition - now it's £120.

I tell ya, without reloading for my unmentionables, I'd be utterly screwed for shooting them.
 
We have the same saying here, “rip off your fellow American “… you are paying 29 pounds for 250 tins, we pay $12 for a 100, it comes to $27.50 or so!! Not much cheaper and they are made just down the road from me compare to you!! It sucks all the way around!
 

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I'll just refer you to the Prevention of Terrorism Act, and leave it at that........................................ :(
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I knew Henry Kranks owner when he had a garage before he bought the Krank side from Longstaffs (before he got murdered) he had Pheasnt Valley & Longstaffs as well the Krank side mostly govt surpluss junk . Zoran use to take me to Brum proof house and browning ect.But he was allways keen with prices . I left all that poop behind voted with my feet and picked NZ. don't know cost of caps mostly shoot flint or Matchlocks . What We tend to do is look at the' telephone numbers' of stuff today but when a joiner might y get 12 pounds a week & now last I worked it was 14 pound an hour So the" sticker shock" factor is keenly felt. But its as not about out the same or cheaper . When I got 5 pounds a week but could by a ML gun for 5 and a single & 8 for a double & org powder flasks ran 3 pounds ( unlesss leather covered then it was a 30 shillings job) same as shot flask (Coldnt polish them up ) .No mention of the 26 cap ? still got some .What was dear when I was 18 is more( or would be if I shelled out) way less than my 80 years on .And actually cheaper to buy original guns like me & Felt Wad gathered since the young today don't collect like we so keenly did & the market is less in demand.
Rudyard
 
Mogadishu Meanderer said:
We have the same saying here, “rip off your fellow American “… you are paying 29 pounds for 250 tins, we pay $12 for a 100, it comes to $27.50 or so!! Not much cheaper and they are made just down the road from me compare to you!! It sucks all the way around!
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Yep.. Even worse prices at Muzzle-loaders.com... What a Rip-off!!

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TFoley said:
UK is no longer in the Eurozone, and those who live in UK are citizens, like it reads on my passport.
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The unit price is slightly less here in France, about the same amount but in Euros, although there is no hazmat fee. Does the hazmat fee just apply to one box of primers, or can you order say a dozen tins with the 30 quid hazmat fee covering it all? As I frequently return to the UK to visit family and friends, maybe we could sort something out. PM me if interested. Regards the EU, IMHO Brexit was the most egregious example of national self - harm ever engaged in by a country in modern times. The public were gulled into it by very glib newspaper owners and posh politicians who stood to make a fat pile of cash out of it, and by a sorrowful pro-EU campaign which assumed the vote would go their way. The amount of British stuff we could get in our shops prior to 4 years ago was pretty comprehensive. We hardly get any now except at hugely inflated prices. Spread that across 20 - odd other European countries and that's a hell of a lot of British businesses who are no longer exporting stuff.
 
Sir Boniface Harrison said:
The unit price is slightly less here in France, about the same amount but in Euros, although there is no hazmat fee. Does the hazmat fee just apply to one box of primers, or can you order say a dozen tins with the 30 quid hazmat fee covering it all? As I frequently return to the UK to visit family and friends, maybe we could sort something out. PM me if interested. Regards the EU, IMHO Brexit was the most egregious example of national self - harm ever engaged in by a country in modern times. The public were gulled into it by very glib newspaper owners and posh politicians who stood to make a fat pile of cash out of it, and by a sorrowful pro-EU campaign which assumed the vote would go their way. The amount of British stuff we could get in our shops prior to 4 years ago was pretty comprehensive. We hardly get any now except at hugely inflated prices. Spread that across 20 - odd other European countries and that's a hell of a lot of British businesses who are no longer exporting stuff.
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Without getting into the weeds, because I know nothing about the economics of the UK or Europe.

The Hazmat fee that we pay here in the USA covers the entire shipment, that is one of the reasons why I encourage others to buy BP in case lots and primers (if you can find them) by the 1000. Spread the cost over the entire amount and it hurts slightly less.
 
TFoley said:
UK is no longer in the Eurozone, and those who live in UK are citizens, like it reads on my passport.
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The OPs photos were of RWS caps from Germany, which is in the EU and the Eurozone. My point was that the Euro Economic Zone was sold as a organizational plan that was going to make life better for everyone, but most especially the "common man". For "elites approved" items that proved somewhat true, unfavorable items - not so much.
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It could also be UK specific HAZMAT fees / regulations.
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It would be worth investing if there are indeed different pricing schedules from EU countries specific to the UK.
 
French Colonial said:
Without getting into the weeds, because I know nothing about the economics of the UK or Europe.

The Hazmat fee that we pay here in the USA covers the entire shipment, that is one of the reasons why I encourage others to buy BP in case lots and primers (if you can find them) by the 1000. Spread the cost over the entire amount and it hurts slightly less.
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That is correct, especially if you have a couple of buddies or belong to a club that is willing to make a big order.
 
TFoley said:
Commonly used here to express disgust at the way we are over-charged for just about anything that comes from outside the UK...like percussion caps. There is is one main dealer for BP supplies here in UK - Henry Krank up in South Yorkshire, almost 180 miles from me. Add to that that anything that goes snap, crackle, pop or boom - caps, primers, powder of any kind, must be collected - or sent by HAZMAT courier, and you can see that you need to be pretty much dedicated to your sport to carry on.

However, this popped up on my screen a few minutes ago, so I thought I'd share it with you guys who take great delight in getting a shipment of ten thousand #11 caps for a few dollars....enjoy.


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CCI No.11 Percussion Caps
We're pleased to let you know that we have just restocked RWS 1075 No.11 and RWS 1075 Plus No.11 Percussion Caps.

You can view our Percussion Cap Size Comparison Chart here.

Percussion Caps can be purchased on our website, and shipped direct to your door from £30.00. The next dispatch date is Wednesday 27th November.​
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RWS 1075 No.11 Percussion Caps Pack 250​

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RWS 1075 No.11 Percussion Caps (PK 100)
RWS 1075 No.11 Percussion Caps Pack 250.

General use for black powder percussion pistols, rifles and shotguns using nipple of approx 4.00mm in diameter.​
£29.95​
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​
RWS 1075 Plus No.11 Percussion Caps Pack 250​
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RWS 1075 Plus No.11 Percussion Caps (PK 100)
RWS 1075 Plus No.11 Percussion Caps Pack 250.

General use for black powder percussion pistols, rifles and shotguns using nipple of approx 4.00mm in diameter. The RWS no.1075 Plus 11 percussion caps are very hot and give you consistent shot groupings.​
£29.95​
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​
IMPORTANT DELIVERY INFORMATION:​
This product is classed as an explosive item and must be delivered by a special courier.

A custom delivery quote will be generated for you at checkout. Your quote will be based on your postcode and the weight of your order. Shipping starts from £30.00.

The next dispatch date is Wednesday 27th November.​
​
Henry Krank & Co are the number one supplier of Muzzle Loading accessories in the UK. Shop from brands such as Pedersoli, Ox-Yoke, Swiss and more.​
​
Isn’t 30 Pounds like, around $60 US?
WOW !!!
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Sir Boniface Harrison said:
The unit price is slightly less here in France, about the same amount but in Euros, although there is no hazmat fee. Does the hazmat fee just apply to one box of primers, or can you order say a dozen tins with the 30 quid hazmat fee covering it all? As I frequently return to the UK to visit family and friends, maybe we could sort something out. PM me if interested. Regards the EU, IMHO Brexit was the most egregious example of national self - harm ever engaged in by a country in modern times. The public were gulled into it by very glib newspaper owners and posh politicians who stood to make a fat pile of cash out of it, and by a sorrowful pro-EU campaign which assumed the vote would go their way. The amount of British stuff we could get in our shops prior to 4 years ago was pretty comprehensive. We hardly get any now except at hugely inflated prices. Spread that across 20 - odd other European countries and that's a hell of a lot of British businesses who are no longer exporting stuff.
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I was totaly against the Common market it was a sell out smack in the face of the colonies who gave their all in three wars only to be disadvantaged in favour of Europe mostly composed of old enimies and inefficient farmers By Ted Bloody Heath & his twenty pieces of silver Yought morning Cloud . Wellingtons" a whif of grapeshot" seem befitting it cost me & all brits our birthright disavantaged such as Aus & New Zealanders . I landed in Freemantle after overlanding to Ceylon in 1966 I had a whole three pounds to my name but it was just like walking from one English county to another . Now its all visa poop thanks to the Common bloody market .My Sister lives in Spain .The only Spain I knew was Franko's incidently the ovelanding though Asia was so common it was deemed "The milk run" no border asked for onward tickets or visas funds ect whitch was fine by me as I had just 16 pounds to go from Milan to Bombay . Today it a political mess same as the West Africa & travelled 8 mounths in 1965. Today you couldnt do that . Sad world .I wanted to go to a shoot in Alberta Ide been in the states but at Buffalo the Indian border bitch considered I hadnt enough money refused me might birth right Damn East Indian LET & Hinderance . I couldnt tell her Ide hitch up to Cartier & hop a CN so by days end with luck Ide be half way to Alberta .All the Canadian border seems stacked with negative border bods Its like they pick them from the most negative pratts they can find .wasnt that way when I lived in BC Western Canada. It wasnt shiney pants burocrats made Canada it was Ruffians of my sort that did .not East African rejects.
Rudyard the ruffian
 

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