I came across this little stock and lock a while ago, and quickly gave it to a friend for parts. Today he gave it back to me when I mentioned I wanted to build a squirrel gun. It needs a barrel - so before I waste endless hours online, I thought the great minds here could help me Identify it. The barrel channel measures 29/32", which is just over 7/8", definitely too small for a 15/16" barrel. It uses a hooked breech. I'd like to find a small caliber barrel for it. Any help is appreciated.
Please help me identify this gun
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To me that lock has early CVA all over it. I had a caplock rifle in .45 I believe they were calling a "Kentucky" rifle that had that same lock. I foolishly parted with it years ago and wish I did not because it was a tack driver. I'm not sure about the rest of everything but you may be able to research some of their earlier firearms to get an idea of what would fit. If I had to guess a Jukar Spanish made barrell of the right length might drop right in.
While not the same gun here is a picture of their common lock:
https://www.gunauction.com/buy/14734304
While not the same gun here is a picture of their common lock:
https://www.gunauction.com/buy/14734304
Appears to be a CVA, though not a Kentucky model. Wait for someone like @Frontier's to chime in and let you know what you have. He has a love for these guns and knows them pretty well.
You may also want to post a photograph or two looking down into the tang area of the stock to help id it.
You may also want to post a photograph or two looking down into the tang area of the stock to help id it.
Will do thanks! Here are a couple more pics. I'd really like to find a 32 or maybe 36 caliber barrel for it if anyone has a suggestion.
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I’ll go with CVA, unless some others cut a ramrod channel instead of a drilled hole.
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45 Cal.
CVA Hawken. Certainly not Mountain.
Not a hawken.
Built off the frontier model. Different style butt plate.
Built off the frontier model. Different style butt plate.
Anyone here have a small caliber barrel for it?
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You are unlikely to find a barrel smaller than 45 caliber unless someone ended up with an aftermarket barrel.
Looks a bit like the CVA Squirrel rifle I used to have. It was a 32 caliber but I can't remember what the barrel was across the flats. Could be one of the later production generic "Hawken" style rifles. They tended toward cheaper fittings as they went along. Probably would have to make your own small bore, buy a barrel in the caliber you want and a hook type breechplug and fittings and get to work.
Try Deer Creek Products in Indiana…
If he doesn’t have a drop in barrel perhaps he has the components too build a barrel for the gun.
If he doesn’t have a drop in barrel perhaps he has the components too build a barrel for the gun.
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'Fort Hill' used to sell blank stocks with just a routed channel Ide fill he top in with a strip of wood they where fine if not as finished as Pecatonica Same as North Star but all serviceable Even goobied up 'wasters'' firewood box' culls Ive got round and they all made good guns in kits the buyers distained any clitch of the duplicarver but they got given to the pros and made good guns served me years.
Rudyard the thrifty
