Beginner Percussion Rifle

Tasbay · Dec 7, 2024

I have a Great Plains Rifle and in my opinion, they are one of the more authentic commercially made versions of what a Hawken actually looked like. That and the CVA Mountain Rifle, no longer manufactured. The price is well within your budget. The set trigger on mine is heavier than my T/C Hawken rifles but you get used to it.

flconch53 · Dec 8, 2024

Tasbay said:
I have a Great Plains Rifle and in my opinion, they are one of the more authentic commercially made versions of what a Hawken actually looked like. That and the CVA Mountain Rifle, no longer manufactured. The price is well within your budget. The set trigger on mine is heavier than my T/C Hawken rifles but you get used to it

I saw a TC Hawken on a blanket at shoot yesterday from 400.00
I bought a renegade 54 last year for 350. Look around and also try gun shows. Mostly modern stuff but I usually see 1 or 2 traditional muzzleloaders

wiscoaster · Dec 8, 2024

Dustin.b.1776 said:
Thank you for the information, I had merely noticed that had builders kits in stock that were close to my price range so I assumed they were worth the mention. My bad on that one, on the topic however do they make a good product should I ever decide to try my hands with flintlocks? Thank you for the help.

Absolutely, yes. The best kit-maker out there. I've build two myself. I think maybe the prices you're referencing were the "ship next day" sale specials, which don't include $315 for the lock, and may be reduced price on account of slight blemishes.

Dustin.b.1776 · Dec 8, 2024

wiscoaster said:
Absolutely, yes. The best kit-maker out there. I've build two myself. I think maybe the prices you're referencing were the "ship next day" sale specials, which don't include $315 for the lock, and may be reduced price on account of slight blemishes.

Most likely so. I appreciate your help.

Rebel bull · Dec 8, 2024

Dustin.b.1776 said:
I greatly appreciate all the information. I’m actually looking at a CVA that’s currently posted on the site. I’ve read here and there about issues with certain CVAs, would you consider a good quality CVA on par with a TC? Thank you for the advice.

I have both brands and I would say that they are equal in quality that being said I think the Thompson is a better choice if you want to shoot something other then round ball. But there are CVAs that did have a 1:48 twist. Both guns well shoot along side any custom made gun and take their share of the money

Dan O · Dec 8, 2024

Watch the Track of the Wolf website they have TC Hawkens often and other rifles to choose from. They also list new Investment arms plains rifles in 50 and 54 for under $700.00. I'm not sure how they compare with the older Lyman Great Plains rifles, but someone here may have that information.

stephenprops1 · Dec 8, 2024

Dustin.b.1776 said:
Howdy, I am an aspiring traditional hunter and a huge enjoyer of history with a recent love for the 17th and 18th centuries. I am in search of an heirloom quality percussion muzzleloader that can with practice be used to take up to Black Bear sized game but will mainly be used for target shooting and Whitetail Deer hunting. I have started to realize that it is not a good time to be looking to get into the hobby, with most posts on this site on the subject pre dating Covid. Thompson Center no longer makes traditional rifles, and the name brands that do still make them have quality control issues. I have narrowed my options to a brand new Traditions, Lyman/Investarms depending on stock, or Pedersoli. I would also entertain building a kit from Kiblers Long Rifles or other manufacturer, or buying a rifle second hand. A T/C Renegade or Hawken would actually be my first choice if I can find a good one due to the ease of putting on a skinner peep sight. The most I’m looking to spend is $800 but I can stretch it to a grand if it’s truly what I’m looking for. I appreciate any advice given and I apologize if this was recently asked as I am still learning to navigate the site.

I would look online at Track of the Wolf, Dixie Gun Works, and The Log Cabin Shop for starters. You don't mention where you live. If you told us some of us might be better able to direct you to a nearby store.

Dustin.b.1776 · Dec 8, 2024

stephenprops1 said:
I would look online at Track of the Wolf, Dixie Gun Works, and The Log Cabin Shop for starters. You don't mention where you live. If you told us some of us might be better able to direct you to a nearby store.

I’m currently looking at the newly manufactured Investarms Great Plains Rifles on Track of the Wolf as we speak! I’ll have to give those other websites a gander as well, I live in Western North Carolina if that helps locate any stores nearby. Thanks for your help.

flconch53 · Dec 8, 2024

Dustin.b.1776 said:
I’m currently looking at the newly manufactured Investarms Great Plains Rifles on Track of the Wolf as we speak! I’ll have to give those other websites a gander as well, I live in Western North Carolina if that helps locate any stores nearby. Thanks for your help.

In the 1990's I had a muzzloading shop in Mars Hill. The French Broad Rifles would be a good contact for you

Dustin.b.1776 · Dec 9, 2024

flconch53 said:
In the 1990's I had a muzzloading shop in Mars Hill. The French Broad Rifles would be a good contact for you

That’s awesome thank you for the information! I was planning on taking a look at local clubs and events after finding a rifle that suits me, I had no idea there was a club so close to me. That’s really helpful and it gives me a good head start into the sport, I appreciate your help very much so.

GregK · Dec 9, 2024

As someone else mentioned, you can find used TC's for reasonable prices. Check the classifieds here. A 50 or 54 will do anything you want done.

thehorn · Dec 9, 2024

I was in Dixon’s on Saturday and they had a TC Hawken (perc) for $275 if I remember correctly. The price tag gave me cause to check it again as that’s a very good price.

Dustin.b.1776 · Dec 9, 2024

thehorn said:
I was in Dixon’s on Saturday and they had a TC Hawken (perc) for $275 if I remember correctly. The price tag gave me cause to check it again as that’s a very good price.

May I ask where that is? Are you referring to Dixie Gun Works? I apologize I’m still familiarizing myself with all the businesses and websites that have traditional black powder ware.

Frontier's · Dec 9, 2024

Love my traditions St.louis hawken. She shoots with them all and never a lick of trouble.

waksupi · Dec 9, 2024

Get a Kibler flintlock. The price caps are, you will find it more affordable to own and shoot than a cap lock. And more reliable~!

Bad Karma · Dec 9, 2024

Here’s a dandy Renegade with many of the accoutrements needed to begin shooting.
https://www.muzzleloadingforum.com/threads/t-c-renegade-54-caliber.188563/

Hawken 50

https://www.muzzleloadingforum.com/threads/t-c-hawken-50-cal.188507/

Or… big medicine here…

https://www.muzzleloadingforum.com/threads/thompson-center-renegade-rebored-to-58cal.188512/

Best of luck with your new pursuit!

longcruise · Dec 9, 2024

waksupi said:
And more reliable~!

I'm not a flint shooter but I do observe them a lot at shoots or range sessions. And, I'm not a basher but all that I see says that percussion ignition is more reliable.

French Colonial · Dec 9, 2024

longcruise said:
I'm not a flint shooter but I do observe them a lot at shoots or range sessions. And, I'm not a basher but all that I see says that percussion ignition is more reliable.

Well...

That may open a can of worms that will debated for a few pages, reliability depends a lot on........

longcruise · Dec 9, 2024

French Colonial said:
Well...

That may open a can of worms that will debated for a few pages, reliability depends a lot on........

Oh yeah! Let it begin. It will be without any further input from me.

springfield art · Dec 9, 2024

Dustin.b.1776 said:
Howdy, I am an aspiring traditional hunter and a huge enjoyer of history with a recent love for the 17th and 18th centuries. I am in search of an heirloom quality percussion muzzleloader that can with practice be used to take up to Black Bear sized game but will mainly be used for target shooting and Whitetail Deer hunting. I have started to realize that it is not a good time to be looking to get into the hobby, with most posts on this site on the subject pre dating Covid. Thompson Center no longer makes traditional rifles, and the name brands that do still make them have quality control issues. I have narrowed my options to a brand new Traditions, Lyman/Investarms depending on stock, or Pedersoli. I would also entertain building a kit from Kiblers Long Rifles or other manufacturer, or buying a rifle second hand. A T/C Renegade or Hawken would actually be my first choice if I can find a good one due to the ease of putting on a skinner peep sight. The most I’m looking to spend is $800 but I can stretch it to a grand if it’s truly what I’m looking for. I appreciate any advice given and I apologize if this was recently asked as I am still learning to navigate the site.

You'll like the info you can get here.

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