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John Henry

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Pedro Jose Aguirre built this gun some time long ago. It was gifted to me from a friend that does not shoot or hunt. I have searched to net and can only find pistols made by Aguirre.
Is this a one of a kind? Any information would be greatly appreciated!
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Don't have any newsflash for ya. But to my untrained eye, it looks like he took the internals from a left-hand lock & somehow adapted them to right hand. Probably from necessity & lack of other options.
 
I see you are from Florida. That makes sense that kind of Spanish gun would be used there. Who knows, maybe it was used in the Seminole wars.
 
Spanish miquelet shotgun. May have been flintlock originally. They made lots of these, but you don’t see too many around in good condition. Make sure it’s not loaded. Neat old gun!
Bang on Sam if I think its made percussion I saw a lot of these sorts in Spain years ago . 1964 Franko's Spain . Whether there is any connection with the AYA shotguns no idea but it stands for Aguirre & Aranthable however its spelt .I think that hole at the front end was for some sort of saftey nipple cap. nice lion hammer interesting gun ..
Regards Rudyard .

P S all z words are pronounced as a TH in Castlinian Spannish something to do with Rey Alphonso Qinthy ( Fifth ) who had a short toungue /Lisp didnt seem to apply to Colonies only Court circles and some regions of Spain
 
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Don't have any newsflash for ya. But to my untrained eye, it looks like he took the internals from a left-hand lock & somehow adapted them to right hand. Probably from necessity & lack of other options.
I’ll post a picture of the left side when I get a chance.
 
I did take it to a smith and he doesn’t think it’s loaded.

Don’t mean to sound rude, but thinking it’s not loaded and knowing it’s not loaded are two different things. I once traded for a Thompson Center Hawken barrel and the guy I got it from swore it was unloaded. When I dropped a ram rod down the barrel I knew immediately it was loaded. So, I replaced the nipple with a grease fitting and pumped grease into it with a grease gun. Out came a round ball, a charge of powder, another round ball and another charge of powder! He acted surprised and embarrassed.

I’ve bought several used muzzleloaders that were supposed to be unloaded but actually weren’t.
 
Don’t mean to sound rude, but thinking it’s not loaded and knowing it’s not loaded are two different things. I once traded for a Thompson Center Hawken barrel and the guy I got it from swore it was unloaded. When I dropped a ram rod down the barrel I knew immediately it was loaded. So, I replaced the nipple with a grease fitting and pumped grease into it with a grease gun. Out came a round ball, a charge of powder, another round ball and another charge of powder! He acted surprised and embarrassed.

I’ve bought several used muzzleloaders that were supposed to be unloaded but actually weren’t.

The ram rod all but disappears when inserted in to the muzzle with just maybe a quarter inch still protruding. The end in the barrel appears to stop at the flash hole.
 
The ram rod all but disappears when inserted in to the muzzle with just maybe a quarter inch still protruding. The end in the barrel appears to stop at the flash hole.
Then its not loaded' Rudyard's assessment. It is an interesting gun Ide eagerly trade 4 TC guns for it if Ide ever had such a machine made article. I did have a Parker Hale Enfield but didn't keep it I've had old guns or rolled my own probably makes me a flintlock snob but I don't mind ,
Oh I did cobble up three separate pieces of three wrecked Indian made guns Served me well for US events as a' Colonels private purchase ' Carbine . Cobblers kids are always poorest shod .But it was a positive' fire risk ' rambunctious Rudyard
 
The two holes suggest for a belt hook, & I made up an Escopeta from old parts if new stock Just to put just such an original belt hook into context .Baldrick carry being a very Spanish feature in my case the stock was Catalonian style .Theirs a photo in earlier posts showing it .Kieth Neil & Lavins Spanish arms Books show these styles .(Any made from the opposite side lock notion is a nonsense) . Interesting gun.
Regards Rudyard
 
After talking with Sam by PM and going with his advice. I’m looking for someone near me in North Central Florida to look this gun over and give me their assessment on how to move forward on preserving this gun.
 
Has anyone heard from Deep Creek Dale? I think he was in Florida and made Miquelets.
Well at the risk of being ' left field' the state it's in. IE condition is what could be & is called" Attic Pristine' and thusley very desirable to most collectors rather than being' cleaned up 'often to its detrement '.Not to question deep Creek Dale' s abilities or Sams opinion . buffed up is easy done getting it to 'Attic pristeen' when the chance is lost isn't .
Thought full Rudyard
 

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