Parts and instruction.

romoshka · Dec 15, 2024

I am BP ignorant though I did go to the range with my father once a long time ago. I acquired his BP guns and equipment at his death 40+ years ago. This included a CVA Ky rifle kit and Ky pistol kit. The pistol kit was all in an old candy tin so manufacturer isn’t known. Now retired and with a small hobby machine shop I’d like to tackle these. The rifle kit appears to be complete to include a nice instruction booklet and all drilling, tapping, deburring and chamfering has been accomplished so it looks like a rather straight forward assembly process. Now the pistol is another story. There is a faded instruction sheet but this barrel doesn’t match the instructions which refer to a finished barrel. This barrel will require it to be drilled and tapped for the drum. The tang on the barrel is much too long and straight as an arrow thus some cutting, heating and bending will be required. Also dovetails will need to be cut into the barrel for the front and rear sights. Also there isn’t a lock for it.
So my questions are: 1.Where do I source a lock? 2. As this barrel will require some machine work would the instructions give some indication of where the drum should be located or must I determine that once the lock is installed? 3. Guidelines for heat tolerance and treatment of the tang. Thanks any and all who can offer some assistance.

2 shots · Dec 15, 2024

we will need pictures to help you. does the pistol have a stock??

BoomStick · Dec 15, 2024

And a photo of the instructions, even faded, may give some idea.

romoshka · Dec 15, 2024

2 shots said:
we will need pictures to help you. does the pistol have a stock??

wiscoaster · Dec 15, 2024

Ummmmm ..... unless you're doing this for some sentimental reasons that outweigh any practical considerations, the amount of time and effort and expense you're going to have to put into making this a shootable gun is going to far outweigh just buying a new and complete kit or production gun.

ZUG · Dec 15, 2024

You might not like what I am going to say but if it was mine I would not waste any money on this bunch of useless parts. I would put it up for sale and buy yourself a bottle of a adult beverage for the holidays. :dunno:

romoshka · Dec 15, 2024

BoomStick said:
And a photo of the instructions, even faded, may give some idea.

wiscoaster said:
Ummmmm ..... unless you're doing this for some sentimental reasons that outweigh any practical considerations, the amount of time and effort and expense you're going to have to put into making this a shootable gun is going to far outweigh just buying a new and complete kit or production gun.

Well I’m retired, have a machine shop and time. Looks like a lock is ~$65 and that’s the only part I need. I think one brass ramrod thimble is missing but I’ll just turn that out. The machine work is well within my capabilities. Will have to carefully measure location of the drum.

romoshka · Dec 15, 2024

ZUG said:
You might not like what I am going to say but if it was mine I would not waste any money on this bunch of useless parts. I would put it up for sale and buy yourself a bottle of a adult beverage for the holidays.

I may not agree with what you have to but I’ll defend to my death your right to say it.

I’ve got plenty of adult beverage. I’ll press on

BoomStick · Dec 15, 2024

You could elect either flint or percussion -either way you have to find the right place to drill the barrel.

smo · Dec 15, 2024

Do not be discouraged, they will shoot.

mikesto44 · Dec 15, 2024

Take the challenge it will be fun. Plus you will learn a lot. Your retired so its just a fun project. You might be able to get a lock from Log Cabin shop in Lodi Ohio.
Just measure the length of the in let an see what they have. Or check E Bay. Good luck.

smo · Dec 15, 2024

Deer Creek Products is another great source for older CVA & such parts..

R Ellis · Dec 15, 2024

Do it and have fun also Deer Creek may have the lock that will fit without much inletting

ronaldrothb49 · Dec 15, 2024

Looks to be a CVA Kentucky pistol. I am currently working on resurrecting one. You are missing a whole lot of parts there. The percussion kits came with the drum already installed through the barrel into the breech plug already installed on the barrel. The flintlocks came with the breech plug installed. The breech plug you have doesn't look like anything from CVA, If it fits the barrel then I doubt the barrel is a CVA.

Bill Bryan · Dec 16, 2024

I built a .45 cal Kentucky flintlock pistol from Dixie Gun Works when I was in high school. It was one of the most fun things I did. I've still got it and shoot it. Go for lit. Bill

tenngun · Dec 16, 2024

I’m going to venture that was a flintlock. Getting one to fit that mortise will be a problem
Track of the wolf has a blank lock but useing one is a lot of work
I would contact them to see if they have a style that would fit
Dovetails are very easy to make. Scared the bejeepers out of me on my first one, no sweat after that
If you go with percussion a drum is also an easy fit and track of the eolf sells drums and nipples, trigger guard
I find them all a pain to fit on a pistol

1950DAVE · Dec 16, 2024

A free barrel, machine tools, with knowledge of their use, willingness to ask about what you dint know and a can do attitude. Nothing can keep you from building what you envision.

cebusey · Dec 16, 2024

romoshka said:
I am BP ignorant though I did go to the range with my father once a long time ago. I acquired his BP guns and equipment at his death 40+ years ago. This included a CVA Ky rifle kit and Ky pistol kit. The pistol kit was all in an old candy tin so manufacturer isn’t known. Now retired and with a small hobby machine shop I’d like to tackle these. The rifle kit appears to be complete to include a nice instruction booklet and all drilling, tapping, deburring and chamfering has been accomplished so it looks like a rather straight forward assembly process. Now the pistol is another story. There is a faded instruction sheet but this barrel doesn’t match the instructions which refer to a finished barrel. This barrel will require it to be drilled and tapped for the drum. The tang on the barrel is much too long and straight as an arrow thus some cutting, heating and bending will be required. Also dovetails will need to be cut into the barrel for the front and rear sights. Also there isn’t a lock for it.
So my questions are: 1.Where do I source a lock? 2. As this barrel will require some machine work would the instructions give some indication of where the drum should be located or must I determine that once the lock is installed? 3. Guidelines for heat tolerance and treatment of the tang. Thanks any and all who can offer some assistance.

Don't let the nay sayers discourage you. Parts are available and you will get a lot of satisfaction from finishing it. I have one I built as a teenager over 50 years ago and it is still going.

Wirehair · Dec 16, 2024

People are building black powder rifles and pistols every day, so why can't you? Just go slowly and think it through. But be careful, it can be addicting!

Rebel bull · Dec 16, 2024

back in the day when I was just starting at the plant working overnights (little to no supervision) I built from scratch except for the lock a smooth pistol. hand carved pallet wood for the stock shot good at 10 yds

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