Traditions flintlock Kentucky long rifle kit

MountainHunter01 · 2024-12-22T01:33:38-0500

I’m throwing around getting a long rifle kit next summer depending on how much my taxes hit me and I like the price point of the traditions flintlock Kentucky long rifle kit. I currently have the hawken woodsman and it’s extremely accurate out to 100yds, maybe further as I’ve only shot out to 100 with it, and I don’t mind that they are a little cheaper built. What I did notice is that I can only find a kit with a single trigger. I personally prefer the double trigger and dug into it a bit more and saw that the percussion kit of the same Kentucky long rifle has a deluxe model with the double triggers. My main question is does a double trigger kit exist for the traditions? Even looking at some pedersoli kits close to 1000 dollars they only have a single trigger. If a double trigger flintlock Kentucky long rifle isn’t made by traditions, are there any other similar flintlock kits (pa long rifle, Kentucky long rifle, Tennessee long rifle) in that 550-650 range?

Tumbledown · 2024-12-22T09:22:53-0500

The Traditions Kentucky Rifle kit's lock will not work with a set trigger as it doesn't have a fly.

awreis · 2024-12-22T10:32:48-0500

The Gun Works sells a fly and a tumbler that will accept the fly. You could change it out if you wanted.

With a little work though, the single trigger can be pretty smooth. Mine does like to be well greased. Oiling it doesn't seem to work as good as grease. I took mine apart and polished all wear surfaces and that helped tremendously.

MountainHunter01 · 2024-12-22T14:20:47-0500

awreis said:
The Gun Works sells a fly and a tumbler that will accept the fly. You could change it out if you wanted.

With a little work though, the single trigger can be pretty smooth. Mine does like to be well greased. Oiling it doesn't seem to work as good as grease. I took mine apart and polished all wear surfaces and that helped tremendously.

I even wondered if it’s the same lockset and triggers that is in the hawken. Apparently a single trigger on a Kentucky isn’t totally un period correct, the idea of it just bugs me a bit. Might have to get over it though

awreis · 2024-12-22T14:45:58-0500

I wanted to do a set of double son mine but it seems like it was going to be more than my capabilities so I took the lock apart, polished with 800, 1000 then 1500 sand paper. Then I used polishing compound d on my dremmel and buffed all wearing surfaces. This seemed to help a lot. It's not a hair trigger but it's not like trying to lift a brick with your finger either. For me it's about perfect.

wiscoaster · 2024-12-22T16:42:11-0500

Traditions don't supply the greatest locks. Pedersoli has a Kentucky-style rifle with a double set trigger like you want. However, when you get into that price point, you're also in the same price point as a Kibler Southern Mountain Rifle kit, which is a whole world above the Pedersoli, as I have an example of both, and can compare them directly.

Sidney Smith · 2024-12-22T20:20:37-0500

Traditions guns are junk.

Daytime Smoker · 2024-12-22T20:41:45-0500

MountainHunter01 said:
I’m throwing around getting a long rifle kit next summer depending on how much my taxes hit me and I like the price point of the traditions flintlock Kentucky long rifle kit. I currently have the hawken woodsman and it’s extremely accurate out to 100yds, maybe further as I’ve only shot out to 100 with it, and I don’t mind that they are a little cheaper built. What I did notice is that I can only find a kit with a single trigger. I personally prefer the double trigger and dug into it a bit more and saw that the percussion kit of the same Kentucky long rifle has a deluxe model with the double triggers. My main question is does a double trigger kit exist for the traditions? Even looking at some pedersoli kits close to 1000 dollars they only have a single trigger. If a double trigger flintlock Kentucky long rifle isn’t made by traditions, are there any other similar flintlock kits (pa long rifle, Kentucky long rifle, Tennessee long rifle) in that 550-650 range?

I’ve looked at that same rifle. I think it would be a good a good gateway into the flinter world. Personally, I like traditions rifles. I have several and they have treated me well. I have other brands as well, but I appreciate the learning experience those rifles have given me.

Anthony

Fifty Four · 2024-12-22T21:33:47-0500

The Traditions Deluxe Ky rifle has set triggers, and is available as a flintlock. Don't know if it's available as a kit, but there's so much wood that can be trimmed from the stock, you can make that into a project/kit all by itself.

SDSmlf · 2024-12-22T21:46:33-0500

MountainHunter01 said:
Apparently a single trigger on a Kentucky isn’t totally un period correct, the idea of it just bugs me a bit. Might have to get over it though

Personally not a fan of the Traditions Kentucky Flintlock, but a lot of people seem to enjoy these guns for what they are. If things with it bugs you, maybe time to move up to a higher price point. Plenty of options.

MountainHunter01 · 2024-12-22T22:11:33-0500

SDSmlf said:
Personally not a fan of the Traditions Kentucky Flintlock, but a lot of people seem to enjoy these guns for what they are. If things with it bugs you, maybe time to move up to a higher price point. Plenty of options.

Honestly I can’t afford anything more than the traditions. I’ve looked at the totw and Kibler kits, the totw kits all use lr locks which aren’t bad but they seem to be just a high end production lock from what I have seen on my friends kits from there. The kibler kits look like they have a nicer lock but I cannot justify paying 900 for a chunk of wood, and a separate 315 on a lock. It’s absurd what some of the kits cost imo. What would be cool is if someone had a Dixie gun works kit laying around for sale cheap but I haven’t seen any of those in years

MountainHunter01 · 2024-12-22T22:15:03-0500

Sidney Smith said:
Traditions guns are junk.

I’ve got to disagree, my current one is a hawken woodsman and I am currently more accurate than the 1500 dollar custom flinters the rest of my group use. They run a smaller pan and they don’t like English flints, but a good cut agate flint and a minimal amount of pan powder and it goes off almost instantly every time. The triggers are not as nice as a custom gun out of the box but it’s a completely different price point and mass produced as well and they are still crisp and predictable

SDSmlf · 2024-12-22T22:25:03-0500

MountainHunter01 said:
Honestly I can’t afford anything more than the traditions. I’ve looked at the totw and Kibler kits, the totw kits all use lr locks which aren’t bad but they seem to be just a high end production lock from what I have seen on my friends kits from there. The kibler kits look like they have a nicer lock but I cannot justify paying 900 for a chunk of wood, and a separate 315 on a lock. It’s absurd what some of the kits cost imo. What would be cool is if someone had a Dixie gun works kit laying around for sale cheap but I haven’t seen any of those in years

My point was to enjoy the Traditions Kentucky for what it is, and don’t worry about making it something it isn’t. Simply put, it can be serviceable as is. Pour all the money you want into upgrading a Traditions and it is still a Traditions. If that makes you happy, great. If you want something more….

MountainHunter01 · 2024-12-22T22:36:24-0500

SDSmlf said:
My point was to enjoy the Traditions Kentucky for what it is, and don’t worry about making it something it isn’t. Simply put, it can be serviceable as is. Pour all the money you want into upgrading a Traditions and it is still a Traditions. If that makes you happy, great. If you want something more….

Yeah, I totally get what you mean. At this point too I’m still not decided on what I want to do either. Maybe once summer comes around and demand eases up a bit more stuff will pop up as well

MountainHunter01 · 2024-12-22T23:31:43-0500

awreis said:
The Gun Works sells a fly and a tumbler that will accept the fly. You could change it out if you wanted.

With a little work though, the single trigger can be pretty smooth. Mine does like to be well greased. Oiling it doesn't seem to work as good as grease. I took mine apart and polished all wear surfaces and that helped tremendously.

Would you happen to have a link to those parts? Looking around all I can find is a fly. The more I think about it, it should be relatively inexpensive to swap those parts out and put in a fly and trigger kit. It appears if I read some older posts right the locks between the single trigger Kentucky and the deluxe model are identical with the exception of a fly but I may have misunderstood.

awreis · 2024-12-23T06:12:37-0500

MountainHunter01 said:
Would you happen to have a link to those parts? Looking around all I can find is a fly. The more I think about it, it should be relatively inexpensive to swap those parts out and put in a fly and trigger kit. It appears if I read some older posts right the locks between the single trigger Kentucky and the deluxe model are identical with the exception of a fly but I may have misunderstood.

https://thegunworks.com/product-cat...traditions/rifle-locks-lock-parts-traditions/

The tumber is at the very bottom. If you have any questions I would give them a call directly. They are a small shop and seem to know what they are talking about when you ask questions.

Banjoman · 2024-12-23T07:36:48-0500

MountainHunter01 said:
I’m throwing around getting a long rifle kit next summer depending on how much my taxes hit me and I like the price point of the traditions flintlock Kentucky long rifle kit. I currently have the hawken woodsman and it’s extremely accurate out to 100yds, maybe further as I’ve only shot out to 100 with it, and I don’t mind that they are a little cheaper built. What I did notice is that I can only find a kit with a single trigger. I personally prefer the double trigger and dug into it a bit more and saw that the percussion kit of the same Kentucky long rifle has a deluxe model with the double triggers. My main question is does a double trigger kit exist for the traditions? Even looking at some pedersoli kits close to 1000 dollars they only have a single trigger. If a double trigger flintlock Kentucky long rifle isn’t made by traditions, are there any other similar flintlock kits (pa long rifle, Kentucky long rifle, Tennessee long rifle) in that 550-650 range?

Here’s what my Traditions Kentucky, .50 caliber percussion can do at 75 yards in the rain with factory trigger. Some folks say they don’t like ‘em, but mine sure ain’t fer sale.

Just my .02 cents

BoomStick · 2024-12-23T08:15:04-0500

Check Clay Smith's website. He sometimes gets kits on consignment and a deal may be had. He had a couple chambers kits and I guess they were gone in a couple days at the prices he asked: https://www.claysmithguns.com/guns_on_hand_kits.htm

Rebel bull · 2024-12-23T09:42:22-0500

I personally don't know about the current production Traditions guns. The older ones had the adjustment screw on the tumbler as long as you have a original lock you can get as good a trigger release that's as good as having a set trigger. If you install a L&R I know from experience that the lock won't function without the set trigger and this was on multiple guns.

Eric Krewson · 2024-12-23T10:24:26-0500

I have several guns with set triggers but I prefer a single trigger for hunting, even with my set triggers I normally just use the front trigger when I am hunting. Cold hands and light set triggers have caused me to have negligible discharges several times while drawing down on a deer.

I like crisp triggers around 3# for hunting, the pinned single triggers I made for the guns I built are all 3# or slightly less.

I have two TC Hawken rifles, the kit gun I put together had about a 10# unset front trigger right out of the box, lots of polishing of the sear and trigger bar got it down to 6#. The other TC has a 3# unset front trigger and I never touched it except to polish the trigger bar.

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