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Not sure, I’ve never seen One. Alll the 1717-1754s I’ve viewed had a top flat that faded into round at 7” some marine guns were 12” #5 is a grenadiers gun What keeps the bands from turning is the tapering

Ok so I the flat on some French infantry guns flats are full length. It’s confusing but according to a collector in France These are considered amuzzets like a type of smaller rampart gun. These were in .80-.90 caliber. Here is one of the 1728 patterm. The flat was to prevent the bands from...

Here’s a 1717 , one from France a friend has

After 1728 before 1746. I’m waiting on a 1754 barrel I bought from a collector, cut to 43”

No, 1728

1728 barrel And a 1728 rifle shoppe 1728 breech and muzzle

If it’s there it must be extremely rounded off or tapered so much that you can hardly see or feel it. I wrapped the barrels in a heavy tinfoil to get a pattern shape of the flats. On my original the flats just fade out at 7 1/8 inche on this 1728 barrel i have. The bottom three flats are not...

I understand you’re using published materials Clark but the physical evidence suggests otherwise. I have an original barrel here with flats that are 7 1/2from the breech, the rifle shoppe’s 1728, and 1754 and 1717 patterns are all 7-8 inches from the breech. The top flat certainly doesn’t...

The frizzen surface is going to be textured no matter what you do, because of use. You certainly do not need to rough it up in advance, that would only remove some of the carbon content that’s on the surface of the steel. If the frizzen is appropriately hardened, and the lock has good energy...

Alternative woods that work very well for ramrods are White Oak, Black Locust, Elm, Yew and Ash. The French used something called Holly Oak which is very similar to white oak. What makes a wooden rammer strong is less taper, this consequently requires a bigger stock. You can always make...

Agree, just a ramrod.

I’ve used Yew before, only because a friend gave me a sample left over from a long bow project. Osage is expensive to get in a dowel my opinion hickory works just fine for the purpose. We often think of ramrods as precious, but the truth they’re very replaceable.

Just want to be mindful that the Indian made barrel was not really made to be reduced the way you desire it to be, French barrels from the models 1717-1754 were not small in the breech area for a reason, they ranged between 1.30-1.35 with some even as high as 1.37 across the flats. The tapering...

There’s a lot of incorrect information in Mueller‘s book. He says the 1763 breach is nearly 2 inches tall that’s almost rampart size. The largest originsl 1763 I’ve measured was 1.446

Original 1740s grenadier barrel .72 call 46 7/8 “

1754 barrel unfinished

1728 barrel

Top flat is 47? That can’t be correct I’ve got two barrels here that are for the 1728 through 1754. The flats measure exactly 7 1/4 on the 1728. The original the flats fade at around 8 and end at 11(barely)

Yes, French infantry guns had flats that were around 7-8 inches from the breech. Grenadier and marine muskets had flats that were 12” from the breech.

I doubt there are any barrel bands out there that will meet the exact specifications you need for a friction fit. You need to remember that the 1728 band set up works with a friction fit, not a spring fit, and there are not steps on the stock and barrel, it needs to be tight with the band...