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Just FYI, I've reported this user but @Lock99 is a scammer. He messaged me on this platform stating he had a Hawken for sale, gave me a number to text. Attached are the screenshots. I cursory google of the name (a lady living in Selah Washington), the address (A cafe) and the driver license #...

Just depends, I'm open to getting a decent looking shooter but if the right beauty came around, I'd be up for spending 2-3k. I'd prefer to get a decent looking shooter though.

Looking for a Kit Carson style Hawken, thank you.

Hey the man behind the recipe himself! I wish I would have recorded his reaction, it was a hoot. I'm a Missourian but hunt in Kansas as well (Originally from and have land there--currently live right across the river). This is a bird from one of my Kansas farms. Dunno if I'll shoot a...

Beautiful pics, beautiful gun. Hell of a memory, good work!!

Update! 15 minutes after shooting light, came in to fight my Tom decoy and dropped at 30 yards. 1 1/8" spurs, 8 1/2" beard. Gun performed admirably as did the load. Many thanks for everyone in the thread (and of course Skychief!) for helping dial in the load! Especially @Brokennock and...

Updated--I can't remove the bad call/link to the old file above it and it doesn't display in the editor--must be some raw HTML stuck in the background. Anyways, new photo added :)

Yikes I'm glad you pointed that out--I had wrong labels throughout. I fixed the post up as to not confuse anyone that stumbles on this thread--the Modified barrel performed best, not the IC. Pictures/File updated, thanks for catching that! Thanks again for all the help, your mentioning of...

Ok second round of testing done. I'm sharing 5 results. 4 of those results are the 'mean' results from the shooting today and I think most accurately display my findings. The 5th result was my typical standard 12 gauge Benelli I turkey hunt with. I wanted to get a pulse for how my best...

Damn, that's a great idea I didn't think of (large paper behind Turkey target). I will use that this coming weekend if weather complies on my next round of tests. 8 shots with each type of load. Only 1 with the cylinder because I forgot about testing it and didn't think about it until 1 load...

Range = 25 yards Gun = 20 Gauge Pedersoli Deluxe SXS CYL/MOD Load Info Below Photo Results attached. I had multiple sheets but only uploaded photos from the eyeball 'mean' of the two types. The trend was the same. The only one I didn't have multiple tests on was the damn cylinder choke...

I'll order the fiber wads, I agree that the cork looks unlikely to soak up much. Thanks for all the help!

I can't seem to find a concise answer to this--but I have a great deal of 1/8" over powder cards such as found here: https://possibleshop.com/s-s-wads-shotgun.html I read that nitro cards are the same as 1/8" over powder then I read that no, sometimes they aren't. Is the 1/8 over powder the...

I'm fairly new to muzzle loading--and this will be my first year trying a black powder for Turkey. You can tell the season is around the corner, I was just thinking of making this very thread! I too will be trying for a gobbler with a 20 ga. Pedersoli smoothbore. Just to make sure I...

Not sure if new thread was better--but decided to just keep this thread as an archive of bucks taken with my Kibler. I took 5 total deer this year, 2 on my Kansas property and 3 on my Missouri property (We are allowed a bonus doe in Missouri in my county, 2 bonus doe are allowed in 23'!). One...

200 .44 cal balls 300 Wonder Wads 50 Quick Load Tubes I think this prices around 75 bucks, I'll ship free for 40 (paypal) anywhere continental US. Thanks!

I appreciate all the replies and discussion. Just an update plus some details I failed to share the first time around. I live in Missouri and it's been a bit humid--however my rifle sits on my wall in my study. My house is pretty tightly temperature/humidity controlled (and only 3 years old)...

Ok just an update--so I took a bright light and shone it down the barrel. The rifling/barrel looks shiny new and as perfect as the day I got it. I tried getting a photo but that proved impossible, especially with 5 feet of rifle to move around. So really stumped now :). Assuming this must be...

@Sean E Bug I misspoke. I don’t use straight soap, it’s a mixture of warm water and bore cleaner 13. It’s a Kibler rifle if that matters. No, it felt the same when I swabbed as before, no different. @Phil Coffins I’m really wondering if it is the ballistol.I did formerly use rem oil. I...

Have a good method of cleaning my flint, usually I shoot enough I don't have time between shoots to take a look at the barrel. This last time it's been a good 3-4 weeks since I shot and decided to run a patch down the barrel as a check. Brown, brown brown! I ended up cleaning it, take a look...