000 buck shot in 36 cal. gm barrels

[dbutch]

Looking for feed back on the performance and consistency of the 000 buck shot .350 dia. from Hornady. Track's list is 5 # @ 24.50
am I better off going with the poured .350 -s waged or 000 buck?

Have a 36 cal. gm 28" ibs barrel on the way ..

Thank you in advance....Dan

 

[Grullaguy]

This is second hand information from me, so please take it with a grain of salt.
I was told:

...factory loaded 000B usually measures .350" and Federal 000B .345" (to fit inside a shot cup wad).

SAAMI specs call for the nominal .360 +/- .015" So anything from .345" to .375" is 000B. The SAMMI upper limit for this size would not be usable in a 12 gauge.

Under the same standard 00B can run from .315" to .345", so the largest SAAMI spec 00B is the same as the smallest 000B.

So depending on where you got your buckshot, would determine how well it worked.
Buckshot is also cast quite hard so that it will not deform as it is fired from a shotgun.

That said, many people claim to successfully shoot 0 buck successfully in .32 squirrel rifles.

 

[dbutch]

Thanks Guy ..great info ..love the details :thumbsup:

 

[Rifleman1776]

You wouldn't be the first to do it. I have a friend who does that and is happy with results.

 

[sc45-70]

I shoot 000 buck all the time in my .36 cal. rifles.
I can't tell any differance between it and swaged .350 balls.

SC45-70

 

[ballandcap]

I shoot 000 buck all the time in my .36 cal. rifles.
I can't tell any differance between it and swaged .350 balls.

SC45-70

X2, I use the Hornady 000 .350
If I hunt anything bigger than rabbits (maybe Javelina this year) I may use a swagged ball for the possibility of a little more expansion but paper, squirrels, rabbits, and other smaller game it's a no brainer at a fraction of the price, plus accuracy seems just as good.

 

[longcruise]

Have been shooting the Hornady buck shot from a .36 GM barrel for a long time. Never thought to bother to measure it.

Got out the calipers and two balls. As I hold a ball and measure, then rotate, measure , the rotate, it comes up at between .348 and .355. So, they certainly are not all that round! But, for all that, they shoot just fine. :thumbsup:

 

[jethro224]

:hmm: I musta got a better batch than you did. I checked a dozen different balls from my box of Hornady 000 buckshot just now after reading your post. Measured each ball 4 or 5 times in different spots. .348 came up only twice. Every other measurement was either .349 or .350 for the whole dozen. :idunno:

 

[ballandcap]

Hornady states the 000 .350 buckshot is a strict tolerance of +0.0001"

 

[dbutch]

Gentleman...Rifleman,Sc45-70,ballandcap,marmotslayer,Jethro...Thank you..this forum has help me lot's! The knowledge and the hands on experience is great!..Thanks again for sharing..Can't wait to dirty the new barrel.....Dan

 

[Zonie]

Just for the record, Hornady says their .350 buckshot has a roundness tolerance of .001.
The information I found doesn't say what the size tolerance is.
http://www.hornady.com/store/000-Buckshot-.350-Diameter/

Roundness does not control the actual size. It only controls the shape.

Roundness is a measure of the departure from a true circle and the USASI Y-14.5 interpretation says it is measured radially.

Using this interpretation, the measured diameter could vary .002 while the part was still within its roundness tolerance.

Unfortunately, I could not find any information giving the size tolerance for buckshot.

 

[longcruise]

Unfortunately, I could not find any information giving the size tolerance for buckshot.

I doubt if there is any! Not about to start in on this project, but I'll bet if they were weighed they would compare pretty close and the average roundness is probably close to. All roundness issues are out the window once it's hit with a short starter!

 

[dbutch]

Thanks Guy's...Just opened up my loading supplies from TOTW..5# of Hornady .
000 buck shot...pulled 25 out and all measure .349-.350..Have a digital sale on my wish list and will play more if I'm good!..Man these 000 buck look small to me! It's time to start drilling out some ball boards...With my paws I'll lose more than shoot loading by hand.

Thank you all for the input.....Dan

 

[jethro224]

OK, you guys got me curious again... so I whipped out my Hornady GS-1500 electronic scale and weighed 25 of 'em. I got one that weighed 63.1g and one that weighed 63.8g. All the rest were 63.2-63.6g.

 

[Prairieofthedog]

So how much are we really saving by buying the buckshot?I think I can still get .36 Hornandy swaged balls for $6.00 a 100.On the net cheapest buckshot I think is about 25-28 shipped.I think at one time the buckshot was a lot cheaper,like everything else LOL.How many balls in 5# buckshot?Thanks.

 

[dbutch]

7000 gr.=1 lbs
000 buckshot weighs 63 gr
7000 divided by 63=111 per lbs.

5 lbs =555 per box@ 24.50 per box

your price 555 rb's=33.30

the end!

 

[jethro224]

I just went by the chart here on the forum that said 108 .350 balls to the pound instead of doing the grain/lb math...

Going that route I came up with;

540 balls to the 5lb box
TOW price $24.50

Hornady .350 balls TOW price $8.19/100 = $44.23/540

Cast .350 balls TOW price $8.99/100 = $48.55/540

 

[ballandcap]

Ok, I guess I missunderstood rounderness vs. weight tollerence...... OOPS!
I weighed 20 .350 000 buckshot vs. .350 hornady roundballs so we all can compare now........

000 Hornady .350 Buckshot weighed 20 ea. in grains
63.3, 63.7,63.5, 63.5, 63.4, 62.9, 63.3, 63.3, 62.7, 62.8, 63.5, 62.7, 63.3, 62.8, 63.3, 62.8, 62.9, 63.3, 63.0, 63.3

.350 Hornady Roundball weighed 20 ea. in grains
65.0, 64.9, 64.8, 64.9, 64.6, 64.8, 65.0, 64.7, 64.9, 65.0, 64.5, 65.0, 64.3, 65.0, 64.8, 64.5, 64.6, 64.3, 64.8, 65.0

Getting kinda late now, I'll let someone else do the math if they'd like.

Shot about 40 rounds today of 000 Buckshot out to 50 yards and seemed to perform very well.

I initially figured 000 Buck VS. round balls were close to half the price....., last time I checked at least.

 

[Prairieofthedog]

Makeumsmoke,I take the price I posted back,took a look in the shooting box and the last .36 swaged balls were $7.00 a box.I get mine from a guy that wholesales them to me.Like Jethro posted they are probably $8-9 a hundred most places.Most shops don't even carry any roundballs anymore.I'm gonna order 5# 000 buckshot before they quit making that to.I also have a .32 and I think they quit making #o buckshot. Thanks for the info guys.

 

[justtim]

The Hornady buckshot is a harder lead than what you would normally buy or cast but works fine in my .32. I think I'm on my 3rd box of shot for that gun. The 00 shot measures .320 as I remember so you have to use a thin patch , at least in a GM barrel. The boys and girls shooting pistols down at Friendship use them a lot. That's where I first heard about them. Accurate enough for them- plenty good for me.I just wish there was a buckshot that fit a .40 :hmm: