1717 French musket

What caliber is it and was it used in the U.S?

 

What caliber is it and was it used in the U.S?

They were supposed to be between .69 and .73 tolerances. From what I have read they were not issued to troops in North America, but that is not to say that a few didn't somehow get here?

 

[Russianblood]

The one offered by MVTC is in .69 caliber. And they were supposedly only issued in Europe. The Model 1728 is what came to North America.

 

[davidthered]

I seem to remember something about the French supplying Bonnie Prince Charlies forces with muskets, and a lot of those folks hightailed it to the colonys... may have been a few around, S. Carolina perhaps?
:hatsoff:

 

[David Teague]

They didn't "hightail it" to the Colonies... :shake:

The British government deported 50,000 Highland Scots in a 2 year period of time after the 45... those that "hightailed it" went to nearby France. Those that were deported were done at the point of a bayonet so I really doubt they carried any arms with them.

The proscribed punishment if caught with a weapon (or wearing any form of Highland dress) was to be shot down in the street per the act of 1746....
or deported to the Colonies or the Caribbean

The first Highland regiment raised by the Brits after the "45" were issued those 1717 muskets captured after the battle of Culloden Moor.

Cheers,

DT

 

Could you modify it any way to replicate a french musket used in the states.I really like this gun.

 

Did some lookin.Seems later models had multiple barrell bands and the 1717 only had one.

 

[Russianblood]

This would be a good example of a French musket in North America:
[url] http://www.loyalistarms.freeservers.com/1690'sfrmarine.html[/url]

 

Thats a nice gun.Good price to.Saw some on another site that didnt have the vent hole drilled.Would it be fairly easy to drill a vent.Are they cheap built.

 

[Russianblood]

Loyalist Arms is good quality and they carry spare parts. The downside is they don't accept credit cards.

 

[David Teague]

Loyalist Arms is good quality and they carry spare parts. The downside is they don't accept credit cards.

You could use one of those credit card "checks" that we all get in the mail to paid off the big bills, etc... :thumbsup: better use for em in my book.

 

[David Teague]

Could you modify it any way to replicate a french musket used in the states.I really like this gun.

Just buy the 1728 as it has about the same drop to the stock and the improvement of more bands on the barrel.
1728 from LA

 

Neuman in his Amer Rifleman article on muskets of the AWI, shows a photo of an American-stocked gun that he says uses French 1717 parts--this article is available online, google french 1717 muskets and you will find it. The parts got over here somehow...seems like I remember reading somewhere that a few 1717s got here, but not as regular issue arms of French forces here...

 

Thanks Mike. :hatsoff: Ill check it out.

 

[Wes/Tex]

The only known M.1717's in North America were those carried by the Swiss Regiment Karre's first companies sent to the West Indies and Louisburg. I would be very hesitant to suggest that any of those got into civilian hands. If you removed the bridle connecting the frizzen spring screw and the frizzen screw, shorten the screws and reshape the stock front with a brass strip and you'd have a very close match to the grenadier musket of about 1700...still a lot of work. FWIW: The Regiment Karre, being a 'foreign' regiment got guns from St. Etienne rather than Tulle like the Marine department. Their later companies to Louisiana would have been issued M.1728 muskets. Think going with the M.1728 would be a lot easier and more accurate.