1851 Navy

[HDMM]

Just sharing a pic of the Pietta 1851 Navy .36 cal I recently picked up. They really seem to have upped their game on fit and finish.

 

[D Yager]

Indeed they have, from a tuning perspective the internal parts are really hard steel especially the hammer. The good thing is the arbor has been corrected although every now and then one gets by being too long.

 

[M. De Land]

Just sharing a pic of the Pietta 1851 Navy .36 cal I recently picked up. They really seem to have upped their game on fit and finish.

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Good choice , I have one just like it made in 2022 and it has the arbor end fitted from the factory. I did give it a trigger job (forged it back farther to fit the bow better) and may have to give it a new front sight but it's fit and finish are superb from Uberti as is.
I haven't even shot it yet as I got so interested in the Walker from Uberti that shoots very high with the factory offering front sight.

 

[nick_1]

I have been reading Buffalo Bills autobiography. When the Indians would charge they would wait until they got close and kill a few with their first volly with their yager rifles then impress the indians with rapid revolver fire untill they ran away to regroup which gave his small party time to reload before the next charge. No mention of any hits with the pistol shooting. He did say they were using Colts. I suspect they all missed high and NO I am not buying the old wives tale that thease things hit high on purpose. I suspect that at the period of time they just could not wrap their minds around the concept of a tall front sight on a firearm. I do not recall ever seeing a tall front sight on an antique firearm. the older they get the smaller the front sight is.

 

[wiscoaster]

......I suspect they all missed high and NO I am not buying the old wives tale that thease things hit high on purpose. I suspect that at the period of time they just could not wrap their minds around the concept of a tall front sight on a firearm. I do not recall ever seeing a tall front sight on an antique firearm. the older they get the smaller the front sight is.

I think it needs to be remembered that today's method of aiming via direct line of sight from eyeball through rear and front sights is a modern invention of Jeff Cooper and that back in the day Point Shooting was more commonly used. That method was taught and used up to and through at least WW II, according to some old training films I've seen on YouTube.

 

[nick_1]

all the old training manuals I have seen the 1911 was shot one handed bullseye style and absolutely was aimed.

 

[wiscoaster]

all the old training manuals I have seen the 1911 was shot one handed bullseye style and absolutely was aimed.

Actually, I think they were taught both ways. Early on in this video you see them aiming and shooting one-handed at targets (but not using Jeff Cooper's Weaver stance). If you FF to about 3:00 you'll see them practice what's they're referring to as "combat shooting", which is clearly a point-shooting method:



Jerry Miculek on point-shooting:

 

[nick_1]

that was a cool film. notice they do fire with sights and accurately at 50 yrds and 25 yards.
I find that with my 1858s and both of my single shot pistols that point of aim and load is exactly the same for both 25 and 50yrds