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Hardened steel and welding? No.

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Tips and advice? Stop. You are describing a poorly constructed pipe bomb.
I can promise you it's a good weld. "Hardened steel" means absolutely nothing to you because you don't know what steel I used. Secondly there is 2 solid inches of weld. You can weld hardened steel just fine. On top of that it will be proofed with 2 double charges. You need to realize that they made cannons from stone wood and unwelded steel. So I suspect that an overbuilt modern steel cannon built by someone who can weld will be fine. Black powder is very low pressure. It takes the path of least resistance the bigger the bore the less pressure is produced.
 
Please note the requirements for the Cannon subforum:
Discussions about Traditional muzzleloading cannons. No breech-loaders, pipes with end caps, PVC, or "potato guns". Historic cannon design only.
Your original post describes a "pipe with end cap." Rather than waste your time smarting off to me, perhaps contact a moderator for clarification.
 
Please note the requirements for the Cannon subforum:
Discussions about Traditional muzzleloading cannons. No breech-loaders, pipes with end caps, PVC, or "potato guns". Historic cannon design only.
Your original post describes a "pipe with end cap." Rather than waste your time smarting off to me, perhaps contact a moderator for clarification.
You are right. I didn't know that non traditional cannons were against the rules. But I wasn't mouthing off. Everything I said is true. I had my father weld it.....he's welded in nuclear power plants so i promise the welds are good. Then I went in and added Inches of extra weld.the pupe wall is thicker than some .50cal rifles I've seen. And seeing as a .50 would be higher pressure I don't see the problem. But I'll bet you 1000$ it takes the proof loads and handles everything I put in it. I'm sorry if it came off as mouthing off but you made a lot of assumptions without a lot of information.
 
I can promise you it's a good weld. "Hardened steel" means absolutely nothing to you because you don't know what steel I used.
Some might take this as being a bit mouthy. I certainly read snark.
Secondly there is 2 solid inches of weld. You can weld hardened steel just fine. On top of that it will be proofed with 2 double charges. You need to realize that they made cannons from stone wood and unwelded steel.
Just because Capt Kirk used wood for a cannon doesn't make it a good idea.
 
Please note the requirements for the Cannon subforum:
Discussions about Traditional muzzleloading cannons. No breech-loaders, pipes with end caps, PVC, or "potato guns". Historic cannon design only.
Your original post describes a "pipe with end cap." Rather than waste your time smarting off to me, perhaps contact a moderator for clarification.


You are right. I didn't know that non traditional cannons were against the rules. But I wasn't mouthing off. Everything I said is true. I had my father weld it.....he's welded in nuclear power plants so i promise the welds are good. Then I went in and added Inches of extra weld.the pupe wall is thicker than some .50cal rifles I've seen. And seeing as a .50 would be higher pressure I don't see the problem. But I'll bet you 1000$ it takes the proof loads and handles everything I put in it. I'm sorry if it came off as mouthing off but you made a lot of assumptions without a lot of information.

The admonition about what this discussion thread may contain is correct. The thread does post a standard that must be met, regardless of the skill of the person doing the work.

Speaking of "assumptions", YOU cannot PROOF your barrel. Period. Full stop. YES I am aware a lot of folks, some who sell black powder guns among them, do provide information about how a person can "proof" a gun at home. NOPE. "Proofing" is a very specific, very legal term. It means the barrel was sent to one of the proofing-houses in one of the fourteen countries with such facilities that adhere to the C.I.P. treaty, that it passed, and that it was stamped by the Proofing-House. The United States is not one of these countries.

YES you can TEST your barrel. In fact you can test any barrel that you wish, and as each of the CIP Proofing-Houses around the world has their own standard for black powder proofing (modern ammo and fixed BP ammo is standarized; BP Muzzleloader loads are not), you can come up with a pressure test that exceeds the testing done to determine proof. BUT..., it's not proofed unless sent to the proper facility, where it passed, and was stamped.

So please don't use the terminology about proofing unless speaking about such a barrel.

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