22.cal flintlock

[JSS]

i have recently aquired a 20 inch octagon barrel in 22 and am thinking of trying to build a flinter out of it but people that i have ran the idea across always bring up the fact that its going to fowl the bore fast and tell me there horror storys of how there small bore guns (36cal and under) fowl out really fast. may be i am just lucky or there just retards but i shoot my two 32's a lot and havent had a problem fowling either one of them so i am asking you guy what you think of the idea and the fowling problems

 

[bioprof]

Another factor to consider is the rate of twist of the rifling. It may not work well with a roundball.

 

[boar]

I have two 32"s and there no dirter then my other BP guns. Haven"t got a non dirty BP gun. I spit clean after ever shot usualy. The only thing I would make sure you have a brass rod for the small calber or one of them unbreakable ones. Dilly

 

[JSS]

thought about that already i figured if worse comes to worse i could shoot 22 cal pellets, pull apart 22 lr shells, or they sell 22 cal bullets for those micro cap and ball pistols so i have some options as far as that goes

 

[Bubba45]

I started on a barrel I got from Numrich years ago but never finished it.I made a breechplug drilled and tapped for a touch hole and cut dovetails for sights.I was going to use 10-15 grs 4fg with 22 pellets lubed with beeswax.Gonna have to finish it some day. :hmm:

 

[Russ T Frizzen]

The bullets for the .22 revolvers are oversized like those used in larger C&B revolvers. Ramming them down a rifle barrel might be a good work out, but a little hard on a wispy .22 ramrod.

 

[chopperusa]

Several years back i seen a small .22 callaber that used a barrell intended to replace a stevens favorite made into a cap lock. If i remember correctly the builder used a .22 cal air rifle pellet and used a .22 long rifle case as a powder measure. Believe he used a heavy skirted bellet out of germany but i dont know man. or weight. I might be wrong but i believe the .22 started out as a black powder cartridge?

 

[44-henry]

Don't know how it would work, but 28 and 25 caliber muzzleloading guns were known in the 1800's. It wouldn't surprise me to hear that a 22 caliber gun was also used at some point.

 

[Mike Brooks]

I'll be building a .25 soon. it will shoot a size of buck shot I believe. The same with the .22, you're going to have to find buckshot so you can patch the ball otherwise you wont be able to load it. What size are you going to drill the RR hole?

 

[Zonie]

Yes, the .22 started out as a rim fire black powder cartridge. Mr Smith & Mr Wesson offered it in their earliest revolvers.

While making a .22 cal flintlock sounds like an interesting project, I don't know what your going to shoot in it.
According to the Dixie Catalog the largest birdshot (American std) is the Air Rifle at .175 diameter. The No.1 is .160 diameter.
In buckshot, the smallest is a No. 9 (Westeren size) or No. 3 (American size) which is .250 diameter.
Just for giggles, I checked the size of a Sheridan .20 cal wasp waisted pellet. Its forward end was .195 and the flaired rear end was .200. It would fall thru the bore of my Savage Favorite .22 barrel.

zonie

 

[Gump]

The airgun world has debated round lead balls versus pellets for some time... here's an article... It says a company called Gamo sells .22 round balls, but I don't see them offered for sale very often.
[url] http://www.pyramydair.com/blog/2005/09/comparative-pellet-penetration-test.html[/url]

 

[Gump]

did a little research.... apparently the .22 lead balls are hard to find..... but I have another idea... Brass balls..... from McMaster Carr part number 9617K35 7/32" diameter (.218).... harder than lead... I wonder how it would perform....
[url] http://www.mcmaster.com[/url]/

 

[Mike Brooks]

but I have another idea... Brass balls.....

Where do those come from do you suppose? Frozen brass monkies? :rotf:

 

[44-henry]

I guess if it were a project that bit me, and I'm really glad it's not, I would probably make a mold to cast exactly the size needed. My lathe and I have made a few mold cherries before on long, cold, winter nights. But I think I would have to drag out the optivisors for that one.

 

[JSS]

I'll be building a .25 soon. it will shoot a size of buck shot I believe. The same with the .22, you're going to have to find buckshot so you can patch the ball otherwise you wont be able to load it. What size are you going to drill the RR hole?

not quite sure yet havent worked out all the details still in the debate aluminum or brass rod and then i can start looking for rodsbut i still have a couple of other things to figure out i think its going to be a full stock ohio style but i dont know i ordered a bunch of parts from track of the wolf and am really disapointed with what i gotbut thats another story
any on have any good ideas were to go for gun stock blanks

 

[JSS]

but I have another idea... Brass balls.....

Where do those come from do you suppose? Frozen brass monkies? :rotf:

:hmm: maybe brass monkeys wifes purse???? :rotf:

 

[wulf]

Too bad you didn't have your email address in
your bio. I could send you a pic of a flintlock
and a wheel lock pistol I made in 22 cal..maybe
someone could post the pics for me??? I started
out using Benjamin hollow base air rifle bullets
but blew the nose off the base with a charge
over 5gr. Origional S&W 22's used 2grs.So I made
a mini ball mold exactly like the 58 Zouave, but
ofcourse smaller. Shot very well. Too little a
charge will blow out the touch hole Five grs was
fine..the barrels are about 4 1/2 to 5 inches
long..The Wheel lock i made from scratch but the
flinter I used a "Beckys" lock all the rest was
scratch....give me an email address and I'll
send pics for you to put on the forum...Finding
a round ball was very difficult and the patch
was very thin. when I ran out of tiny rb's I
continued with the mini's....Wulf

 

[Russ T Frizzen]

I guess you could buy a bag of the .22 slugs from North American Arms and resize them to fit the rifle's bore. You would probably have to make the resizer yourself, but that's no big deal. These slugs only weigh 30 grains, so the rifle isn't going be good for much except small furry creatures at very short range. Anyone got a good recipe for field mice?

 

[CARBABY]

Flintlock .22. Let’s see, ~ if your using 5-10 grains down the bore ”¦. How many grains are you using in the A Pan??? Seems like one might be using more to prime the pan then propel the thing. Perhaps a percussion lock would be more beneficial on optimizing Black Powder for this caliber.

 

[JSS]

i agree cap would make more sence on those lines but i think that flinters have a much more appealing look