.22 caliber Percussion Muzzle Loader question

[eggwelder]

About 7 gr in a .22 lr case Filled level. Give or take

 

[.36Rooster]

How do you measure 3-7 grs of powder??? A pan charger? I am just curious. DANNY

Use 5 gr.
My pistol measure goes that low. And it's adjustable.

 

[eggwelder]

Am building a .22 flintlock. Plan to use air gun pellets, like a mini Minnie.....

 

[Britsmoothy]

I'd tip at least 10gn in and about 10 balls that'll go down maybe a wad and certainly something on top. Go shoot.
What could possibly go wrong

 

[Rokon]

Is your .22 the model developed by **** Casull and marketed by the forerunner of NAA out of Utah?

 

[Grimord]

Is your .22 the model developed by **** Casull and marketed by the forerunner of NAA out of Utah?

See post #14 & 18.

 

[Mark Herman]

I built a .22 percussion rifle, +/- 1/2 scale, for my grandson. We shoot .22 lead pellets with a long rifle case full of FFFg powder. More powerful and accurate than you'd think.

 

[cvco]

Its funny this comes up today. I was just thinking that before this is done they will have us all down to muzzleloaders and no bigger than .22! Then here comes the thread. lol

(uh, wait...why am i laughing)

 

[wulf1928]

I made several 22 pistols....One wheel lock, one flintlock pistol and several under hammer pistols. I also
made mold that cast a perfect mini ball exactly like the 58 cal mini. I sold them all and also sold the
mold. But I kept the cutter. These all shot great with 4 grs fffg. I didn't need a patch and finding a 22
round ball was not easy especially considering using a patch....These all had rifled barrels.

 

[rafterob]

A guy in our club has an original .22 percussion. He shoots 3 grains 3f and a .22 pellet. At 25 yards its spot on.

 

[Rifleman1776]

Not sure if this is the rifle the OP is talking about, but there was a .22 that recently sold on GBroker I was keeping an eye on. Looks pretty sweet if you ask me.

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Interesting and pretty. But something on it looks backasswards to me.

 

[Crow-Feather]

How do you measure 3-7 grs of powder??? A pan charger? I am just curious. DANNY

I think that I would use a scale and put the weighed powder in small containers. Reason - it would seem that small weight differences might cause a problem with accuracy.

 

[painter]

I know you said this, "tounge in cheek" but the original suppository .22's were loaded with 3 grains of powder in the "short" and 5 grains of powder in the "long" and the "long rifle".

Of course, they were sealed breech guns so a grain or two to make up for the leakage past the percussion cap might be needed. That would make for a 5 or 7 grain powder load.
7 grains!
That would make for 1000 shots per pound of powder.

If this is truly a muzzleloading rifle, the projectile will need to be smaller than .22" to load down the barrel. According to Dixie Gunworks Catalog there once was a "TT" size shot that measured .21" that would be ideal but I think "TT" shot ranks in the "unobtainium" department now.
A 5 mm ball would be .197" diameter and there are steel ball bearings that size but they would need to be patched with cloth to protect the bore. Maybe some .010 thick patching? 5.5 mm diameter bearings are also available. They would be .216" diameter which doesn't leave much if any room for patching.

TT is still manufactured, but not much is 'available' these days. I'm not sure if the alloy will be an issue, or not. The only stuff I find is hard.

https://www.ballisticproducts.com/Super-Buck-Lead-TT-8-lb_jar-210/productinfo/SBK2T/

 

[jdesro]

Interesting and pretty. But something on it looks backasswards to me.

For some reason, the stock was made with cheekpieces on both the left and the right.

 

[Flinty Scot]

Beautiful, rifled and ambidextrous! What's the overall length?
Now if it was only flint, it'd be perfect- once you found or knapped small enough flints.

 

[Grimord]

Beautiful, rifled and ambidextrous! What's the overall length?
Now if it was only flint, it'd be perfect- once you found or knapped small enough flints.

OAL is 36". It has a drum and nipple arrangement so I think it might be convertible to Flintlock providing a lock can be found that fits the mortise. I'm thinking a small flintlock pistol lock (Little Becky) might work. The pan charge would almost be equal to the main charge. I'm thinking 5-10 grains max.

 

[Britsmoothy]

OAL is 36". It has a drum and nipple arrangement so I think it might be convertible to Flintlock providing a lock can be found that fits the mortise. I'm thinking a small flintlock pistol lock (Little Becky) might work. The pan charge would almost be equal to the main charge. I'm thinking 5-10 grains max.

But but....you'll double the powder consumption

 

[Rifleman1776]

I have a friend who built himself a squirrel rifle using the barrel of a modern .22lr rifle, percussion lock and drum and whittled out a stock. It worked. I know he used a buckshot, not patched, for projectile, don't know what size. Worked.

 

[Archer 756]

Powder Scale !

 

[Metalshaper]

when I shot over at the Fort Osage range in missouri, a guy made his wife a lil .22 muzzle loader.
he lined a piece of chromoly with a barrel liner and loaded it with a charge of 2 grns 4f, if i remember
right? I swear the cap made a louder bang than the muzzle.. his projectiles were a heavy pellet ..

He had a heck of a time with it! Grinned the whole time he was shootin it.. and come to think of it???
I never did see his wife shoot the thing