30 gr.pyrodex pistol pellets

[jim mencken]

hi i have a1851 brass frame pietta with a12 inch barrel are 30 gr. pellets safe to shoot ???

 

[Stony Broke]

Safe or not.....something just seems wrong using pellets in one.

 

[jim mencken]

Safe or not.....something just seems wrong using pellets in one.

well they were purchased by mistake and don"t want to waste them

 

[TrapperDude]

well they were purchased by mistake and don"t want to waste them

30 grains of Pyrodex are 30 grains of Pyrodex, regardless of the pelletized or powdered form. Safety isn't the issue--reliability is. Go ahead and shoot them up. If you get a chamber that doesn't ignite immediately, just make sure to keep the weapon pointed down range for a minute in case of a hang fire. You can replace the cap and try the chamber again afterwards.

 

[TFoley]

The Pyrodex pellets that I've seen ignite form the centre, which is a small insert of BP of some kind. They are intended to be used in firearms that direct the ignition flame directly onto this part - the un-nameable-on-this-forum kind of firearms. I tried them out many moons ago in a Spiller and Burr revolver and they worked some of the time, but as noted by Mr Dude above, if you get a hang-fire be sure to keep it pointing downrange. Two such incidents got me back to loose powder loading pretty sharpish - the pellets were burned up on an old piece of paving stone.

 

[jim mencken]

thanks fellas iwould rather use holy black than pyrodex but will try to shoot em. up

 

[brushblind]

I have some 30 cal pellets but they are for 50 cal rifle. 30 is a stout load for a brass frame 51, I wouldn't make a habit shooting 30grns pyrodex.

 

[brushblind]

I have some 30 cal pellets but they are for 50 cal rifle. 30 is a stout load for a brass frame 51, I wouldn't make a habit shooting 30grns pyrodex.

 

[William Lincoln]

I would not do it with a brass frame. 30 grains BP pellets are for .44 cals
Use two 30's in your Hawken. 1851 36 cal needs 15-25grs. I would trade
with a friend who can use those for some BP. Those would do fine in
an 1860 44 or REM 1858 NMA. Brass frames are tough but over time
do not resist metal stretch like steel. IF you have a 44 cal version, and
not the 36 then you can use them---but I myself would not. Remember
Pyrodex is slightly hotter than most 3f BP (brands vary). Pellets can have
ignition issues and tend to collect moisture. It sounds like you have a
Pietta Buffalo version of the 1851 Colt. That is a light to medium duty
piece if that is what you have. You can swap a steel frame onto it ,
and when prices for parts drop (hopefully) that is an option.

 

[Gee Dog]

One could really batter a brass frame using those Pyro pellets. They seem hotter than an equivalent 30 grains of loose Pyrodex P. Thirty grains of anything is too much in a brasser.

I used a box of those once. Meh. Never tried but maybe you could cut or bust them up and use a partial. Good luck.

 

[Brokenbear]

Dumb question that I am sure will draw some flak ..but could one crush the pellets between two wood blocks ..crushing it to a say 3F constancy ???
If so one would want to crush just one ..and then put 100% of the results in a BP measure to insure that the contents would in fact be by volume measure the same as loose Pyrodex powder would measure ..this is to insure the energy in the pellet (by volume) is comparable to loose Pyrodex ..if the crushed pellet is different by volume simply adjust by % up or down until the crushed stuff is gone ..
I only suggest this possibility as I do also agree 30Gr is too much for a brass frame

Bear

 

[leadhoarder]

I think those pellets depend on their size and shape to control the burn rate. Modifying them would not be a good thing to do IMO.

I remember reading that they really are not made of the same stuff as the powder. That they are more akin to rocket propellent.

 

[No second place]

Pyrodex works OK if you drop 5gr. of real BP first...c

 

[toot]

remeber that PYRODEX, in any form is BAD JUE JUE !!

 

[jim mencken]

I would not do it with a brass frame. 30 grains BP pellets are for .44 cals
Use two 30's in your Hawken. 1851 36 cal needs 15-25grs. I would trade
with a friend who can use those for some BP. Those would do fine in
an 1860 44 or REM 1858 NMA. Brass frames are tough but over time
do not resist metal stretch like steel. IF you have a 44 cal version, and
not the 36 then you can use them---but I myself would not. Remember
Pyrodex is slightly hotter than most 3f BP (brands vary). Pellets can have
ignition issues and tend to collect moisture. It sounds like you have a
Pietta Buffalo version of the 1851 Colt. That is a light to medium duty
piece if that is what you have. You can swap a steel frame onto it ,
and when prices for parts drop (hopefully) that is an option.

i do have a44 brass frame and don't think i will shoot the 30 gr.pyrodex pellets in it will buy a remington new model 44 and try them in it thanks fo the advice