.36 small game rifle

[timetraveler]

I have also been looking to buy a 36 cal kit and searched the net for reviews about the Santa Fe. Definitely not much out there.

 

[RocketMan58]

Yes, All I have is a household bathroom scale, so can't vouch for accuracy, but it puts the .36cal T/C Hawken with 32" 15/16" Rice barrel at 8lb 13oz.

Interesting info. Thank You The factory Santa Fe claims 7.6# which keeps it in the kind of handy range.

 

[Ditt44]

I think that weight on the Rice is accurate. Any TC Hawken barrel is heavy and just too long for my liking. I've had a couple and I sold them, just can't get a good feel.

Would Rice cut the barrel back to 25 or 26 inches? That's still going to be heavy in 15/16. Oregon Barrel Works might be an option for custom length. I think the best bet is to take the time to find a Seneca. Well worth the effort.

 

[AlexB]

Interesting info. Thank You The factory Santa Fe claims 7.6# which keeps it in the kind of handy range.

Mine weighs 9.7# which is 6 ounces heavier than the 50 they make.
Same size barrel and components just a smaller bore so of course it's heavier.

 

[JDBraddy]

I think that weight on the Rice is accurate. Any TC Hawken barrel is heavy and just too long for my liking. I've had a couple and I sold them, just can't get a good feel.

Would Rice cut the barrel back to 25 or 26 inches? That's still going to be heavy in 15/16. Oregon Barrel Works might be an option for custom length. I think the best bet is to take the time to find a Seneca. Well worth the effort

Fortunately I do also have a .36cal Senica wich weighs in at an even 6lb. And a .45cal Seneca at 4lb, 8oz.

 

[smo]

Hopkins Allen .36 weight and handling not a problem
It’s a shooter! With 30-35 grns fffg Goex & .350 patched ball.

Yes that’s a camera case shot shot pouch along with a Prince Albert can flask..

 

[AlexB]

Hopkins Allen .36 weight and handling not a problem
It’s a shooter! With 30-35 grns fffg Goex & .350 patched ball.

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Yes that’s a camera case shot shot pouch along with a Prince Albert can flask..

I have the same Prince Albert can.

 

[Ditt44]

To corroborate with JD, more reference data...
TC Cherokee .32. 6 lbs 7 oz with sling. I think this is right at 6 lbs without the sling.
TC Seneca .36 6 lbs 11 oz
TC Seneca .45 6 lbs 1/2 oz
TC Renegade .50 8 lbs 2 oz with peep sight
TC PA Hunter Carbine. 50. 6 lbs 12 oz with sling
TC custom Hawken-White Mountain Carbine .50. 6 lbs 12 oz with all that brass no nose cap on modified Hawken stock.

All weighed on a new scale for infants.

 

[smoothshooter]

I think that weight on the Rice is accurate. Any TC Hawken barrel is heavy and just too long for my liking. I've had a couple and I sold them, just can't get a good feel.

Would Rice cut the barrel back to 25 or 26 inches? That's still going to be heavy in 15/16. Oregon Barrel Works might be an option for custom length. I think the best bet is to take the time to find a Seneca. Well worth the effort.

A barrel that short is going to be very difficult and somewhat riskier to load because when you clamp it between your knees to load it, it is going to be hard to keep from inadvertently leaning your torso over the muzzle.

 

[Ditt44]

So I shouldn't load my 24 inch Cherokee? Or my 21 inch carbines Ever? That's a bit of a stretch. I never hold the gun between my knees and know no one who does. That's bad form and no one would ever be instructed to do so if it puts your torso over the barrel.

 

[Gum Slough Muzzleloader]

I'm think real hard about getting a Pedersoli .36 Frontier. I've read they are pretty accurate. I'll be using it for squirrel and hogs.
Any input would be appreciated.

Thanks
Take Care Stay Safe
GSM

 

[Banjoman]

I'm think real hard about getting a Pedersoli .36 Frontier. I've read they are pretty accurate. I'll be using it for squirrel and hogs.
Any input would be appreciated.

Thanks
Take Care Stay Safe
GSM

Would that be flint or percussion? I don’t know much about Pedersoli.

 

[Gum Slough Muzzleloader]

Would that be flint or percussion? I don’t know much about Pedersoli.

Flintlock

 

[Gum Slough Muzzleloader]

Would that be flint or percussion? I don’t know much about Pedersoli.

I'm not stuck on them, but they are good guns. Like all guns we talk about on the fourm they have pros and cons. I've read where some have had issues with the patent breech. I have a few guns with patent breeches and only one time did I clog it up. I believe it was some BS lube I tried, I chucked in the trash and never had that problem again.
I have a 12ga SxS from Pedersoli ans love it.

 

[snakebit]

We do have some nice deer down here.
They have some weight to them and some nice racks.
Biggest deer I've shot down here was 100# . I would have to have a very close shot at the head if I was using my Crockett or SMR both in .32.
I will be getting a .36 in January sometime. Figured I could use that and shot squirrels and if a little Florida deer gives that perfect shot I'll take it.

I think you'll like the 36 Fred. It'll give you a bit more range for knocking those squirrels out of the tops of those Cypress trees you got down there.

 

[Ditt44]

My Pedersoli Scout in .50 has a very fast lock, easy on flint and can't recall a failure to spark. It looks small but that lock, IMO, is very good. I would definitely buy another one if I 'needed' it.

 

[Des52]

I have a Pedersoli Frontier in .36 flint and highly recommend it. It was my first flintlock and sold me on them, I now have six flintlocks and that is all I would buy now,

 

[stephenprops1]

Just out of curiosity, drug out a scale, my .36cal Hawken was 8.8lb, and my .50cal Hawken was 7.6lb for a difference of 1.2lbs.

My .36cal Senica was 6.0lb and my .45cal Seneca was 4.8lb also for a difference of 1.2lbs.

(1.2/8.8)×100=13.6%
(1.2/6.0)×100=20.0%

I think that's a pretty significant difference in weight. More so in the lighter rifles.

I believe many barrels are about the same size. A smaller bore has more of the original barrel left behind, thus a bigger caliber gun would weigh less than a smaller caliber gun. I also believe that when a bore was shot out a gunsmith could rebore the barrel to a larger caliber and give the gun extended life.

 

[yellowhammer]

I have a Pedersoli Frontier in .36 flint and highly recommend it...

Always interested from seeing them online. Unique historical Hatfield styling, easy barrel removal w/o pin removal, etc...

 

[snakebit]

I have a Pedersoli Frontier in .36 flint and highly recommend it. It was my first flintlock and sold me on them, I now have six flintlocks and that is all I would buy now,

I'll second that. Shooters for sure.