4 F in TC Patriot .45 Cal Pistol

[Nicioli]

Hi, is it feasible to safely use 4F powder in the Patriot, or is it dangerous?
Thanks, regards, Nicioli

 

[Juice Jaws]

Where's that Englishmen when you need him. Many will tell you no but it will be fine ;

 

[Nicioli]

Thanks, I asked because this powder granulation is what I found around here and better safe than sorry. If so I was thinking a lee .440 rond ball over a 20 or 25 grains of 4 F.
Thanks, regards, Nicioli

 

[leadhoarder]

It will be fine as long as you do not load too much. I think a typical load is 25gr of 3F. I would probably start out lower than 20.
I know if I were doing it I would start with 10gr to see what happened then work up quickly to 15-20. Not sure I would go higher than that personally but I like light loads in these fine target pistols.

 

[stikshooter]

Hi, is it feasible to safely use 4F powder in the Patriot, or is it dangerous?
Thanks, regards, Nicioli

Start @20 gr and work up a couple gr @a time ,when recoil gets your attention and target groups are good you found the load assuming your patches look good /Ed

 

[Nicioli]

Thanks folks, regards, Nicioli

 

[hanshi]

I use 3F in my .50 flintlock pistol because that's all I have; but would prefer 4F in a revolver. 30 grains of 3F in my .50 pistol seems easy to manage and accurate.

 

[SDSmlf]

Burned a lot of 4F in handguns before the internet was invented and I was informed of the error of my ways. I’ve burned off most of my 4F supply and use 3F in all but my shortest barreled handguns. Either will work with reasonable charges. Look up some data in 1st edition of the Lyman Blackpowder Handbook if you want. It’s been posted here before.

 

[Beaverman2]

I have used 18gr of 4f goex in my 45 Patriot in the past out of necessity at a rondy worked as well as the 23 gr I normally use of 3f

 

[oldramrod]

I find any load over 25 grain FFF has too much recoil in my patriot pistol, so I would recommend less than 20 grain for FFFF