i was outside at my range about 1 hour ago ringing steel at 50yds with my 40cal. SMR. i got bored hitting it over and over, i had a 3in thick block of lead on the table and thought i would give that a try. this was shot off hand 50yds. with 55gr. of Goex Olde Eynsford. some people say it is to light for deer. i say it won't bounce off,,,,,,,,,,,,,,