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narraway

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I wonder if some of you fellow hunters have experience with a .45 ball on deer and if this cal. is big enough.
Charge will be 70 grain Pyrodex.
Distances will be very short.
 
I have taken several with a .45 or .40 caplock or flinter, I like to keep the shots at 60-70 yds max with the smaller balls,though I have taken a nice buck at 85-90 yds with a .40, your load will work if you do your part, the ball will likely pass thru, many years ago .45's were usually what you would find in production guns so they were used and the deer went down.
 
Make sure to use pure soft lead (a given), keep your distances under 75 yards or so, only shoot with good shot placement and the .45 will do it's job. Make sure it's legal to use in your area; some locales have a minimum caliber/velocity. In Wis. it's a minimum of .40 caliber for muzzleloaders.
 
I'll agree with the above, it's plenty as long as you do your part. Make sure you can put it in the boiler room - if you can do that, the charge at the range you mention will be fine.

I have a new forty that I would like to take a deer with, I'll be setting up close...

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Plenty of gun and load. Built a .45 last summer, shot three deer with it last fall, all quick kills, longest 80 yards, .440 ball/60 grains FFF.
 
narraway said:
I wonder if some of you fellow hunters have experience with a .45 ball on deer and if this cal. is big enough.
Charge will be 70 grain Pyrodex.
Distances will be very short.
The relatively light weight of the ball compared to other calibers is the main worry for me...makes me consider distance, and wait for a direct heart shot avoiding big bones...have killed a few deer with a .45 PRB, all close in the 25-35yd range, except for one standing at 60yds...my deer load is 90grns Goex 3F.

But I've also been lucky enough to take two deer while squirrel hunting with a throttled back .45cal Flintlock using only 40grns Goex 3f...ground sitting one day when a doe, and again another day when a 5 pointer, wandered through where I was within 18-20 yards or so, never knew I was there...was able to put the ball in their hearts both times and they each fell within sight.

Just as FYI...if I know I'm going hunting at a place with longer average shot distances I like a little larger caliber...but if you don't happen to have a larger caliber, and your .45cal has a 1:48" or faster twist barrel, TC's .45cal/255grn Maxi-Hunters have been tack drivers for me in TC's 1:48" twist standard barrels...and that 255grn weight will reach out there and carry good energy for penetration at distance (it's almost the same weight as a .58cal ball)
 
thx guys!
as to how far i plan on shooting:
less then 30 yards.
there is a deer X-ing approx. 1/4 mile behind my place,last fall i had a 8 pointer at less than 10 yeards, a 6 pointer at about 15 and does as close as 5 yards.
this will be my first hunt with the black (although i shoot it for over 30 years).
the 45 is my only BP rifle.
hunting deer with modern guns lost its appeal for me.
 
At less than 50 yards, you should have NO problem killing a deer with that .45. Work up loads from 50 grains going up to 65 grains. Ican tell you from my own observations that 65 grains of FFFg powder beind a .440 ball with a .015" patch lubed in NL1000, ( wonderlube, bore butter, etc) will give you more than 1900 fps. The small ball will drive through the chest of the typical whitetail at short yardage, and enters with a larger hole than most modern centerfire rifles produce when exiting! Shooting my brothers New .45 rifle, with its 37 inch barrel, and 65 grains of powder, we were able to easily hit bang plates at 100 and 135 yards. We would not shoot at a deer at that yardage, but this gives you an idea as to how flat the load will shoot.

A round ball kills by leaving a large( .45 caliber) primary wound channel, and the soft, lead ball expanding quickly on impacting flesh, to make an even larger caliber primary wound channel. Even when the ball hits bone, the bones are thin and easily punctured, the ball driving itself and bits of bone with it through the vital organs. Expect the ball to look like a bloody nickel when it stops. It will be more flat than round, and more like a lead disc, than a lead ball.

Find a powder charge that give you good accuracy at 50 yards, and stick with it for your hunting. Accurate placement is much more important than velocity. To give yourself peace of mind, do some penetration, comparative, testing with your favorite modern cartridge deer rife, and with the .45. I think you will be pleasantly surprised.
 
"hunting deer with modern guns lost its appeal for me.'

I have heard that can happen... your load will do well, you can use a hotter load but at close range won't need to, accuracy is an issue as well I would always use a lighter load if it was more accurate than a stout one, your gun will let you know what to use.
 

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