.58 jeager

Gotta small chance to do some shooing at 75 yards with the Jeager.
Hornady swagged .570 r.b. .010 ticking, moose snot. 1.5 fg Swiss, 90 grains, Swiss 4fg pan powders.
2" at 75, about 2" high. Orta be a bit high at 100 and on at 125.
Ave velocity over teh oheler was 1490 fps.
Orta knock a deer into venison sausage. :thumbsup:

 

[Birddog6]

If you are satisfied with that grouping that is fine, but I feel the rilfle will do much better. IMHO, your charge is too hot & the patch is too thin for it. If you drop back to about 70 grains of the Swiss it will tighten up & use a .015 to .017 pillow ticking patch & I think it will tighten up considerably.

I was testing it with 75 grains of FF Goex, .018 pillow ticking, .570 Hornady RB, Lehigh Lube & it shot under 1" groups at 50 yards. That was just testing, not working loads, so chances of that being the best load is slim, so I feel it will do much better.

 

I know it will do better. That is one fine shooting machine.
Didn't have time to wring it out good, but at least I know it's deer capable as it is.
75 grains of Swiss 1.5 is probably plenty enough for deer anyway.

 

For a general hunting load, with that slow twist barrel, I'd be using around 120gr.GOEX 2F for any small, big game hunting, and up to 160gr.GOEX for Moose. Without moose to shoot, your load of 90gr. Swiss, equal to about 115 to 120gr. GOES sounds perfect to me, for deer. I'd be using a heavier patch, but the powder charge really sounds good.(to me) :imo:

 

Hokey smoke Daryl. 160 grains Goex 2fg in a roundball flinter?????? Seems like a LOT of gee-whiz to me and I always start my loads at 20% over sanity!
I'll defer to your vast experience however. :master: :master:
Since I hut only whitetail for now I'll go wtih the 90 grains of 1.5 Swiss. This is the load that shot 0.5" at 50 and I'm sure it wil do 1" at 75, I did use a thinner patching material yesterday, .015 or .018. the acuracy load was a .570 ball with .020 denim.
ONE HUNDRED SIXTY GRAINS!!! :what:
MY KINDA LOAD! :thumbsup:

 

Ha!- I'm used to seeing big loads, being in an area where most people moose instead of deer. I'm loner there, I guess as I prefer deer to moose as table fare.
: The standard SERVICE load for the US .69 cal Military Muskets, up to around 1820 or so, was 165gr. It was assumed that 15 gr. (seems large to me) of that charge was meant for priming, the rest for the ball. The military was trying for a velocity of 1,700fps. After a time, the service charge was reduced to 130gr. as powder quality improved. In order to get 1,700fps in MY .69 rifle, with it's 484gr. ball, I had to go to 230gr. GOEX 2F. That load kicked too much in the 9 lb. gun, so I settled for 1,500fps with 165gr. Afterall, the down range velocity wasn't much less. The chronographs of the time said they were getting over 1,700fps, however I rather think their powder, while better than ours, wasn't that much better.
: It wasn't until minnie bullets replaced Round Balls, that the service charge was reduced to below 100gr. powder, and that was a mere 70gr. for the 730 gr. minie bullet. The short .69 cal. newly rifled musketoons used by the cannoneers, a mere 5 or 6 pounds of weight, must have kicked quite a bit with that big bullet.
: I know of no one with a .54 cal rifle, who doesn't use over 100gr.2F for 100 yard shooting, but then all of the .54's I'm aware of, are made by my bro and have good barrels on them. I would not use these loads in a store-bought gun unless they were within manuacturer's specifications.