.62cal rifled barrel options - Ed Rayl

[roundball]

Per Ed: “yes, the size of a 1” GM smoothbore barrel is fine to have rifling added, no problem”

OPTION #1
Rifle the existing GM .62cal 1” x 33” Flint smoothbore barrel = $65 + return shipping
Will try not to mar breechplug during removal & installation, but does not do any rebluing.
(remove sights, tenon, and under-rib before sending to Ed)

OPTION #2
He could make a new rifled barrel to match the drop-in specs of the GM using it as a template.
Returned to me “in the white” and I could transfer the GM parts to it = $175 + shipping

OPTION #3
He could make a COMPLETE new rifled barrel matching the GM specs AND including tenon & under-rib returned to me “in the white” = $230 + shipping...PLUS the cost of sights that would have to be selected/installed.

 

[Russianblood]

I'd go for Option #1. :v

 

[roundball]

I'd go for Option #1. :v

For sure...I already have an investment in essentially a brand new GM barrel I got a few months ago, sighted it in, shot a few deer with it, etc.

Option #2 disables a perfectly good new barrel by taking parts off of it, to say nothing of the new additional barrel expense & getting it back in the white which would require the cost of a bluing job to match things back up with the blued parts that would get reinstalled.

Option #3 for the most part has the same issues, so neither of those would be my choice...if I hadn't already bought a .62cal smoothbore barrel and knew about it ahead of time, I would have gone with option #3 to begin with...but, if a frog had wings.......

So if I do it, I'll go with Option #1...get the existing GM barrel rifled, and worse case if they mess up the finish, reblue it...minimum about $75, or maximum with a reblue job about $150...I'll probably box it up and send it to him.

 

[Russianblood]

Just use some cold bluing on any scratches that are on it when you get it back. Oxpho-blue is great stuff for fixing scratches.

 

Gonna be watching your project with a close eye. I might end up doing the same thing!

Any mention of rate of twist and number of grooves?

Thanks,

Billy

 

[Runner]

It may be time for a brown or white gun maybe???

 

[roundball]

Any mention of rate of twist and number of grooves?

Not yet...when I call him back to finalize plans I'll find out what he recommends...I'm assuming at least as slow as 1:70"...that's what my GM .58cal is...maybe the .62cal will be a tad slower, dunno

 

[guncobbler]

Any word on how long the differant jobs would take? Ed does great work at absolutely fair prices but it can take a long time for delivery. Of course if he is the only one to offer the service we wait for as long as it takes. GC

 

[faw3]

Dont know if they would be the same but Hammock's is 36" and 1X70 twist on mine.( a 62 ) Fred :hatsoff:

 

[roundball]

Any word on how long the differant jobs would take? Ed does great work at absolutely fair prices but it can take a long time for delivery. Of course if he is the only one to offer the service we wait for as long as it takes. GC

I'll find out when I talk to him...the good news is I'm in no hurry for it...just finished using it for most of this year's deer season and have other calibers...heck, I might even wake up tomorrow and say why bother at all :grin:

 

RB, Last year I sent Ed a barrel with makers name that was hand forged around 1825, and had him rebore it to .54 from its original .38 cal. The barrel had about 180 years of beautiful natural patina plus the original makers name. It came back with nary a mark added to the outside, after rebore, and rebreach. Definately go for number one, and enjoy. He'll send you back one of his price lists, but I think he lists a ninety day wait time, depending on the work. I think ya should just order a .62 barrel in naval bronze from Ed. It'll look good all polished up on one of your fine early TC stocks. Shouldn't cost more than 5 or 600 dollars. Ed will do right by ya, don't worry. Bill

 

Hey, wait a second, you can't talk about rifleing on the smoothebore forum, This should be moved to flinrock, or building, or since it's a spare barrel, maybe accessories. And wait a second, what's this malarkey about something other than 1 in 48 twist, did I hear you mention 1 in 70. :rotf: :rotf: :rotf: :rotf: Oh wow, I think I had too much Christmas fruitcake, and eggnog :blah: :blah:
Bill

 

[Wes/Tex]

Well, as long as we're being silly, hows about Forsyth's version of 1-104" twist. That way it'll be accurate with 200 grains of BP!! :haha:

 

[faw3]

Wellll ya it does work really fine, got one of those Zep barrels they are 144" twist, (couldnt afford the 2000 buck's for the whole rifle) and put it on my underhammer and its 210 to 220 grs in the 36" barrel.(but the smooth barrel is a lot more fun! :applause: Fred :hatsoff:

 

[Wehrmacht]

I've gotten to know Ed pretty well,and have three of his barrels now. The last that I got was a set of 16ga doubles made especially light for wing shooting.

The important thing to know about doing business with Ed is: He will do everything right! You will be very well pleased!

 

[roundball]

All great feedback...thanks!

 

[Java Man]

If it makes any[url] diff...Colerain[/url]'s .62 cal's are 1:66 twist. You would need to shoot real heavy loads to get good use out of a really slow twist. I would think anywhere between 1:66 and 1:72 would work well.

I have a .58 cal with deep rifling and 1:48 twist. That baby shoots real well with hunting loads. Quite a few deer can attest to that at ranges up to 120yds. And many at 80-100 yds.

The deep rifling is more important than the twist rate. IMHO.

 

[roundball]

Just got off the phone with Ed Rayl...

He recommended 1:72" and .012" square bottom grooves.

He said building a complete custom barrel does have some wait time, but just cutting grooves into an existing barrel, said he should be able to get it done in the month of January without any problem...so I'll send it to him this week.

 

[roundball]

Good to know I can at least expect that he'll treat the barrel properly.

I just stripped everything off the barrel except the breechplug and packed it for UPS in the morning...should be an interesting project.