My latest daydream: A Kibler escopeta ...

[Clark Badgett]

It looks generic. But I don’t care, it can be restocked ! The main thing is a few are being imported, I’ll settle for just the locks being available!

You could build one.

 

[Ashton Daniels]

But what is it supposed to be a replica of?

It's a replica of an early 18th century spanish military musket

 

[Clark Badgett]

It's a replica of an early 18th century spanish military musket

The earliest Spanish musket commonly known of is the model 1752, which used a French style lock and 3 barrel bands similar to the French arms. The same style was changed back to a miquelet style in 1791. The lock on this particular musket seems to be copied from a Catalan civilian fowler from the early 19th century. Unfortunately there isn’t much written on early Spanish martial guns other than Brinckerhoff & Chamberlain’s 1972 work.
The pictures are first the India copy, the second the 1800 fowler, the third the 1791 lock.

 

[Ashton Daniels]

The earliest Spanish musket commonly known of is the model 1752, which used a French style lock and 3 barrel bands similar to the French arms. The same style was changed back to a miquelet style in 1791. The lock on this particular musket seems to be copied from a Catalan civilian fowler from the early 19th century. Unfortunately there isn’t much written on early Spanish martial guns other than Brinckerhoff & Chamberlain’s 1972 work.
The pictures are first the India copy, the second the 1800 fowler, the third the 1791 lock.

Here Is a Miquelet carbine dated 1789 which has very similar features to the loyalist arms reproduction.

 

[Clark Badgett]

Here Is a Miquelet carbine dated 1789 which has very similar features to the loyalist arms reproduction.

Except the 2 barrel bands (common) and the different shape of the lock plate. And it’s certainly not early 18th century. Cut that stock to a Catalan style and it would be more believable as an early pre 1752 musket.

 

[Rudyard]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, laugh all you want. But I have been thinking about escopetas ahead of moving back to New Mexico and it occurred to me that if there was decent demand for one -- and a decent miquelet lock was available-- I bet Jim could sell dozens of them. Once you get up off the floor and your sides don't hurt any more, share your thoughts.
It continues to bug me that the Spanish occupation of North America gets almost zero attention.

Gets more than the Russian Fur traders before they sold Alaska But I made one just for the novelty and to 'Restore' an original belt hook. Escopetas ? Si por ke ? not !
Rudyard