A boys Kentucky style gun?

[VicN]

I posted this on my new member introduction and it's suggested I post it here, I was never sure about this gun, it was sold as a boys Kentucky style rifle, it has an an unusual patchbox with a pilgrims hat as you can see. The Rifle is 42" long on a Maple stock , converted from Flintlock to Percussion but not very neatly, Barrel is rifled and 27"excluding tang. I'm not sure if it's a genuine gun or something put together at some time.

 

[azmntman]

pretty cool!

 

[Mulebrain]

It was put together with misc parts, the lock appears to be off a shotgun

 

[VicN]

It was put together with misc parts, the lock appears to be off a shotgun

The lock could well be off a shotgun but the rest of the gun and stock seem original

 

[andy52]

The octagram/polygon inlay with the pilgrim's hat is unusual, I'm not sure what to make of it.
I'm not sure but this gun may have been a fowler at one time.

 

[ronaldrothb49]

Interesting rifle Would like to see more pics if possible especially the lock. Not seeing anything there that would indicate this was ever a flintlock. Also looks like there are brass screws on the cap box which kind of shout modern. That almost flat butt plate just looks out of place to me on a half stock. How wide is it across the butt?

 

[Flintandsteel]

That gun was never a flintlock.

 

[VicN]

Interesting rifle Would like to see more pics if possible especially the lock. Not seeing anything there that would indicate this was ever a flintlock. Also looks like there are brass screws on the cap box which kind of shout modern. That almost flat butt plate just looks out of place to me on a half stock. How wide is it across the butt?

The screws are rusted steel, across the butt is 4 ¼" but I wouldn't call it almost flat, it has more curve than my percussion shotgun. I agree that it was never a flintlock, on reflection I'm not sure why I ever thought it was but you have to take into account that all the guns I'm posting have been untouched for decades.
It's very unusual to find a gun stock made of Maple in the UK so I guess it didn't originate here regardless of whether it's an original gun or a hotch potch of different parts put to together by someone.

 

[ronaldrothb49]

The screws are rusted steel, across the butt is 4 ¼" but I wouldn't call it almost flat, it has more curve than my percussion shotgun. I agree that it was never a flintlock, on reflection I'm not sure why I ever thought it was but you have to take into account that all the guns I'm posting have been untouched for decades.
It's very unusual to find a gun stock made of Maple in the UK so I guess it didn't originate here regardless of whether it's an original gun or a hotch potch of different parts put to together by someone.

Did not know this was an English gun that puts a whole different perspective on it. That would be very typical of what was being made in England during that time period. The wider almost flat butt plates are much more comfortable to shoot than the narrow butts with a deep crescent butt plate being made in America at that time. The half stock I made last year I patterned after the Rigby sporting rifle because of that. There were a lot of people coming to the states on hunting trips during that time so entirely possible they liked the maple stocks and took some wood back home. Will bow out and watch the thread now I just don't have any references to comment further