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I vote for the standard 8" paper plate also, whether it's ten yards or two hundred that's your max range. I'm not sure I could see a deer at 200 in a wide open field these days.
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Everybody to their own thing. If I can consistently shoot a 5” group at 100 yards with a .54 caliber round ball, I’m happy. I know this is all I need to kill any deer. As it is, last time I shot my .54 GPR, I had holes touching from 75 yards.
With a conical, even a .50 caliber, 2” groups from 100 yards is acceptable, even for elk.
With a conical, even a .50 caliber, 2” groups from 100 yards is acceptable, even for elk.
This is what My Hawken will do at 50 yards off a rest. At 100 yards the gun shoots better than my eyes or my ability to keep it on point but I'll get 6" groups bumping up the load to 75 grains FFFg.
Gsjcky
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We all have good days at the range, and bad. For now, I’m working on hunting loads with PRBs. Hopefully this will fall into place fairly easily, but half the fun is in the range time.
I haven’t shat a game animal off hand in…. 40 years?? You always have time to find a rest, or at least go to kneeling. That will not change now. I have gotten very fond of shooting of sticks. A lot of my field practice is done that way.
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I haven’t shat a game animal off hand in…. 40 years?? You always have time to find a rest, or at least go to kneeling. That will not change now. I have gotten very fond of shooting of sticks. A lot of my field practice is done that way.
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I look for a big hole in what I shot at.
Well I dont hunt so if the steel rings when I shoot at it Im happy
longcruise
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It's pretty much done as it is in the suppository world. Eventually everyone and every gun shoots the magical three shot MOA group. Known as an "internet group".
Best way to learn what's real is to get involved in competition and do your best and watch what others do. Keep it up and you will improve.
Many can't handle competition and decline to participate. Too much reality. Learn to enjoy the camaraderie and shoot against yourself.
I am happy when you pull the trigger, there is a flash in the pan, the gun goes boom, and when the smoke screen lifts there is a hole in the paper.
The target below was shot at one hundred yards, offhand, with a 50 caliber flintlock rifle. 70 grains FFFg Goex, .490 round ball wrapped in a .018 lubed patch. It is my second best offhand target at that distance (did not have a camera on that day.) I can't do this every day, but it can be done. 49 XX
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Good advice. In competition, meeting my own goals is what makes me happy. Placement is the luck of the day.
Brokennock
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When your standard is the same size as your practical target,,,, this is known as, "good 'nuf"
That's always been my standard for hunting. That's offhand, not from a bench.
Banjoman
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I used to shoot against myself but the fussing and arguing got to be too much.
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I went to the range today with a friend . After I shot several rounds my friend said where did the owner of that piece go? That is how bad I shoot now. All I could say is I traded my good shooting for ten more years. Old age takes everything but your memories and if you live long enough it will take that?
100yd Parker Hale Musketoon.
Load data is on the white diamond
10lb Parrott Rifled howitzer. We've done better
There's 5 shots in the 4 ring. The photo doesn't give an indication of the light conditions. We were breaking out flashlights about 30min after this pic was taken.
Load data is on the white diamond
10lb Parrott Rifled howitzer. We've done better
There's 5 shots in the 4 ring. The photo doesn't give an indication of the light conditions. We were breaking out flashlights about 30min after this pic was taken.
In my neck of the woods there is generally two thoughts on accuracy. First are the competition shooters of all sorts who strive for groups much better than 1" at 100 yds. Then there are us average deer hunters. Every camp and hunter has its standards but mine is 2" to 2-1/2" at 50 yds. If my rifle can't do that it doesn't go in the field. Hunting ethics dictate that 100 yd shots should only be taken by a MLr who has practiced at that distance and knows they can make (and see) that shot.
Brokennock
Cannon
Wait! You mean, your standard is smaller than "minute of deer"? Smaller than your quarry's kill zone?!!!
Like,,, well,,,,, like insurance for something going wrong or having some type of pressure or stress at the time of the shot?!?!?!!!!
You do know this radical concept is going to blow the minds of many here,,,, and really piss some of them off at a religious level,,,, right?
The, "well Bubba, ah guess minute of _____ is good 'nuf," crowd is legion.
They are found in every shooting in both defensive shooting and all types of hunting,,, and they are staunch. Best of luck brother.
Wouldn't/shouldn't this be true for any distance?
I do believe ml is a short range weapon. Archery on steroids
Ball is a garbage projectile
Ml is low velocity with a rainbow trajectory
As a sport we have an near endless possibilities
Shooting for one hole at a hundred yards is one path,
going all traditional is another
An so many inbetween
A bess or Charlie has taken a ship load of meat, but can’t compete with the best target rifle, that will also fill the larder
I would hazard that no rifleman of early America or Central European forester could win a match at the nationals.
That no WTBS soldier could win at NSSA
Back in the ‘70s I had a book on ml. It had an article about a hunter that shot original besses and took moose regularly
His target was shown, no where near what me a kid could do with my Mowrey rifle, I thought why would he shoot such an inaccurate gun
Now I know
Ball is a garbage projectile
Ml is low velocity with a rainbow trajectory
As a sport we have an near endless possibilities
Shooting for one hole at a hundred yards is one path,
going all traditional is another
An so many inbetween
A bess or Charlie has taken a ship load of meat, but can’t compete with the best target rifle, that will also fill the larder
I would hazard that no rifleman of early America or Central European forester could win a match at the nationals.
That no WTBS soldier could win at NSSA
Back in the ‘70s I had a book on ml. It had an article about a hunter that shot original besses and took moose regularly
His target was shown, no where near what me a kid could do with my Mowrey rifle, I thought why would he shoot such an inaccurate gun
Now I know
