am I the onlyone who dislikes inlines? percussion

[recycle33952]

new muzzleloader here. Got plenty of modern guns I was disgusted by all the inlines no one has decent sidelocks on their shelves anymore. I went 20 places before finding a sweet little tc hawkin percussion. preowned but thats ok I just feel the plastic stuff and inlines are just not why I got into muzzleloading I came to this sport for heritige and the feel of the past and the thrill of shooting like a era gone by. I look at those fancy inlines as the death of my passion

 

[WV_Hillbilly]

I was disgusted by all the inlines no one has decent sidelocks on their shelves anymore. I look at those fancy inlines as the death of my passion

I have to agree that very few of the modern inlines are even pleasing to look at, let alone own. I do think that Inlines have caused many Muzzleloading Hunters to merely switch rifles. They don't care about heritage or tradition, but are merely looking to gain another week (or whatever) of hunting time, or just looking to gain extra meat for the freezer).

To some people, it means not having to track the deer, "150gr magnum charges", a quick second follow-up shot (that one is a laugh!), easier to clean, or maybe it's just a status symbol by owning the "latest & greatest".

The current marketing drive & "hoo-hah" that is accompanying the Inlines has had to be the reason that many traditional shops and suppliers to close up, OR they have drop the sidlocks from their inventory... "pernanently"!

Now that the entry level sidelock CVA Bobcats (that WERE priced at around $50!) are extinct, the "entry level" Inlines are priced at more than twice that amount--for a gun that is much easier to make? Something doesn't add up... but the age old factor, GREED, is still the most probably cause!

I dot think things are going to get harder and harder for people (like us), to find NEW factory made sidelocks at reasonable pricing. Well, we can always buy the used guns from the people who are replacing theirs' with Inlines.

ALWAYS use a BIG enough gun, and remember to shoot safely!
WV_Hilbilly

 

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I know how ya feel......it is all the more reason to buy the guns ya want when you find them....and then KEEP EM! cause they are gittin harder to find.....No buisnesses around my neck of the woods carry sidelocks anymore....and no BLACK POWDER either.....
I liked the way it was in the 70's a whole lot more...
I could walk into almost any store with a sporting goods section and buy any type of sidelock I wanted.....
cheap too.....I remember Brown Besses selling for $325.....

**** WV SCROUNGER ***

 

[robinghewitt]

If the in lines are taking over then I guess that makes them the norm and we are just a bunch of weirdo's who think there's something special about doing it the old fashioned way.

Can't say it bothers me much, I've been weird for over 50 years now and it's too late to change :youcrazy:

 

[shmrck1]

I just feel the plastic stuff and inlines are just not why I got into muzzleloading

recycle,

:agree: I don't think you will get much argument with
that statement around here!
snake-eyes :thumbsup:

 

[onefeather]

i dont like inlines they are just like bolt action guns.i never plan on shooting mine.i will sell it one day and get another muzzle loader side lock lol

 

Welcome aboard! A lot of like-minded folks here that think like you about inlines. The mass marketers have taken over the MLing world and the gunscribes have abetted them. You'll find mostly a traditional view here.

 

[3 stinky dogs]

I had an in line for a few day's once.It was a Knight Wolverine with a black synthetic stock and the sights were glow in the dark and I admit that it was ugly.I traded it for some rim's for my jeep with a guy from where I used to work.All and all it was a good well built gun but I think I ripped the guy off.Now when the In line section was removed it was because it wasent possible to discuss them with out people insulting eachother and the funney thing was most of the guy's that went to the forum dident even particapate in the frey.Since it was removed it has been peaceful but there are still those that must take pot shots just for kik's.Why ? it is done and over with.It is a stupid arguement That has been dead for a long time,So how about we just let it go? How is it productiv to continue thes one sided debate ?At this point it is just preaching to the quire and not much else.I am sorey that you guy's cant find the guns you are looking for atthe big stores but it's getting that way with archery tackle to,Even the wheel bow's.It aint the end of the world and things are looking up.With period movies like the Alamo and some other's more folks are looking into primative guns. just my opinion and we know what they say about those. :m2c:

 

[donk]

If you want a modern rifle go find a 30-06 if you want to shoot to shoot primitive shoot primitive. I really don't see the point of mixing the two to make a modern muzzle loader. to me it is an oxi-moron. or maybe they are just for morons . I'm sorry did I write that. any way that's how I feel about inlines. :m2c:

 

[ryoung14]

I shoot mostly traditional but own a few inlines. I like them well enough and will probably never part with them. I just like traditional guns more.

One thing I want to mention. It was an Inline (Black Diamond) that lured me away from centerfires and into muzzleloading. At the time, it was an incremental change that I was comfortable with. The obstacles encountered by someone teaching himself muzzleloading could be tackled either the traditional way or a more modern way. For example, a charge that wouldn't fire could be pulled with the screw or pushed out after removing the breech plug. I liked this belt and suspenders way of tackling the unknown.

Now that those concerns are behind me, I still like the inlines. They make great platforms for experimentation. The new powders and projectiles are made for them. Yeah, the sabots and black belts have a ways to go before they can equal the consistent performance of the patched roundball. But if all I wanted was to shoot tight groups by doing the same thing over and over, I'd go back to shooting my .22-250.
Bob

 

[3 stinky dogs]

"If you want a modern rifle go find a 30-06 if you want to shoot to shoot primitive shoot primitive. I really don't see the point of mixing the two to make a modern muzzle loader. to me it is an oxi-moron. or maybe they are just for morons . I'm sorry did I write that. any way that's how I feel about inlines. :m2c:"

Short_Start,You can see now why it is not productive to ask thees questions here.This post is ment to start trouble and it was post like this that got the in line forum removed.Any time a helthy debate was started it degenarated into nothing more then a Jerry springer thread. Keep watching you will see more.Hange around the vast majoriety will be able to anser your question's or respond your post with out implying that you are a moron.There is alot of experiance here and just about all are willing to help with your side lock questions.

 

[Arrowstorm]

i have to say that I've been shooting traditional black powder for about 2 years now and i agree that in-lines are pretty much just a way that modern hunters can get an extra week or so in the field. I believe that if you want to shoot an inline, you might as well get you a modern gun! They look like modern guns, they try to shoot like modern guns. I agree with much that has been said here. If you want to shoot black powder (primitive) then shoot primitive! Don't go out and get an in-line and "pretend" that you're shooting primitive, because you're not! You're still shooting modern! :curse: Argh. When I first started shooting black powder, I got into it because history has always been a hobby of mine. It was only natural that I shoot historicaly as well. My dad knew a few people that shot "black powder" and I thought, "well good. I'll have some people to help me along the way". But no.... they shot in-line. Which is a WORLD of difference. They don't go to the range with thier possibles bags and powder horns and shot flasks. They use pre-measured quick loaders and sabotted bullets! I was quite dissapointed. I tend to speak down upon in-line shooters when it comes to the reason WHY they shoot black powder in the first place.

Right, so there's my opinion. I don't like in-lines.... none of us like in-lines. :m2c: Heh heh.

So anyway.... yeah... how bout them saints?

 

[walruskid1]

can't you guys just let it go? i don't care for them either but quit bashing in lines. at least there shooters. i will not allow myself to be drawn into this trolling again. i said my piece.

 

[MikeChapin]

new muzzleloader here. Got plenty of modern guns I was disgusted by all the inlines no one has decent sidelocks on their shelves anymore. I went 20 places before finding a sweet little tc hawkin percussion. preowned but thats ok I just feel the plastic stuff and inlines are just not why I got into muzzleloading I came to this sport for heritige and the feel of the past and the thrill of shooting like a era gone by. I look at those fancy inlines as the death of my passion

I got into BP many years ago and had not paid much attention to off the shelf guns. The pull on them is generally too short for me to shoot comfortably all day at matches so I build my own. The only off the shelf I have is a Santa Fe Hawken because it came with a 15" pull.

I don't care if the gun is PC or not just as long as it keeps with the traditional style. If it shoots good and the person likes it, I will be the last person to disparage it.

As far as the inlines go, if a person wants to use one more power to him. I personally think it's kind of silly to go that way when you could be using a .270 with more reach and power and have the same shooting experience.. If I was to go that direction I would pick up a 45-110 or something like that. More fun to shoot and still be in a traditional context. My opinion may be colored by the fact that Wyoming does not have a BP season as such. Just a few areas that are open for a short time so I go out with the centerfires and inlines.

It might not be typical but I was at the range a month or so ago just practicing off-hand at 50 yards. I was shooting at a 6-bull and putting about 70 percent into the black. These two guys were bench shooting at 50 yds with their inlines at an 8 inch bull with open sights. Both were shooting herky loads with sabots. Neither one could get better than a three or four inch group and they thought the guns were shooting great. By the time they were finished they were ready to go after the wiley mule deer. Did not have the heart to give my opinion on how well they were doing.

 

[mart]

On a recent trip to Los Anchorage, a friend and I stopped by one of the large retail sporting goods stores. The large impersonal one. My friend, who never met a gun he didn't love, was fondling one of the new switch barrel (50 cal/12 gauge) inlines, proclaiming it the current best gun in the world. Both he and the clerk looked at me as if I were crazy when I politely declined to fondle it. I remarked that someday I might be a traditional muzzleloader of great fame and I couldn't afford to have a piece of store video footage come back to haunt me. :nono: "Is this world famous traditional muzzleloader really a closet inliner? :redface: Film at 11." Much to great a risk. :imo:Mart

 

[Dave K]

I don't care if it is an inline, a c-fire or any gun. To me guns are to be finished and looked at with pride. I love seeing beautiful wood and deep metal finishes. I know there is a good reason for plastic stocks and ugly metal finishes, but they just don't and won't be on my guns. :results:

 

[tj gunner]

Most sporting goods stores here stock compound bows & inlines and thats about it. It's real hard to find a flintlock or a recurve bow.
I hunt in pretty dense woods so my longest shot is about 60 yards. so i sure don't need a inline. I have nothing aganst them just don't need one.
Also inlines have gotten more people into ML hunting here in NJ. So has the compound bow. And I guess thats a good thing. So I really can't see the debate. Shooting, hunting, blackpowder, It's all big fun.

 

[3 stinky dogs]

I was refering to the area I live in.I went to acadimy one day to buy arrow's and noticed that they only had youth arrow's.I told the man what I needed and he sed they wernt going to carey archery gear any more because no one baught it.It is the same with 4lb fishing line.

 

[brubincam]

never owned an inline,,,never will,,,even if i was offered one for free,,,go ahead and try to give me one,,,anybody go ahead,try,,, :shake: :shake: :shake:

 

[silverfox]

I own and inline have hunted with it, will I be useing it this year NO. 4# test line I thought my wife and I were the only nuts around. Same here 6 is about the closest I have found. More power to light lines and flintlocks. More fun too. Fox :thumbsup: