another crowning question

[noworries]

With all the talk here about custom guns being made P.C. are they crowned? From what I have seen on the various auction sites it doesn't seem any of the original guns were crowned.

 

[wulf]

I can't tell you about how many barrels were coned but there is a very interesting article in
the March/April issue of Muzzle Loader on page 49
part one. Gave me second thoughts...i will wait
for part two before making any judgement..

 

With all the talk here about custom guns being made P.C. are they crowned? From what I have seen on the various auction sites it doesn't seem any of the original guns were crowned.

Don't know about "crowned", but there is evidence that some orginals were "coned". There is a difference.

 

[wulf]

I was assuming "coned" was the question..

 

[Stophel]

Most of the original American guns I get to see have their muzzles so beaten up it's hard to say what they had...

German rifles are usually (but not always) in better shape. There seem to be two basic options in muzzle treatment. One is to have a VERY narrow bevel crown...just barely knocking off the sharp corner. These will also have each rifling groove filed out so that each one will have it's own little "crown". Very neat looking, and I have just started doing this on my own rifles.

The other option was to be coned. On the ones I have seen that were done this way, the cone extends into the bore only about a half inch to an inch. The rifling grooves are filed out to match the cone. I have never seen yet nor heard of, an old gun that has had the bore coned out but not the rifling grooves. I actually wonder if this perhaps was done with a piloted swedge and cleaned up later....:hmm:

I only have two old rifles (early 19th century), the both APPEAR to PERHAPS be coned...but are in such rough shape, it's hard to say for sure.

I also suppose that some of the guns that have no crown of any kind could well just be straight bored with no cone or bevel or anything...just a square muzzle...I don't know.

 

[Claude Mathis]

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[noworries]

These will also have each rifling groove filed out so that each one will have it's own little "crown". Very neat looking, and I have just started doing this on my own rifles.

It seems a lot of rifles had this... what are you using to make the groves??? I am thinking about attempting this on my Hawken.