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S.Kenton

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I've made a few horns and have been scrimming on them..my question to you good folks here is this: When is the stain applied? After the scrimshaw work or before? The normal technique I use for scrimshaw is this, do the scratchwork and then apply my leather dye ( black) then use 0000 steel wool to take off the excess dye. This seems to work great.I fear that the steel wool may remove the horn stain? Also that the dye may wash off during the staining process of the horn..any ideas??
 
Maybe check with a horner that does that type of work (Honorable Association of Horners- I think that's their name). Off hand I would think the scrimshaw is done first and inked and then the tip dyed. If you did it the other way (tip first) you might effect that area when rubbing off the excess scrimshaw ink. One guy told me he does the tips upside down with the dye in a hot bath. Just dips the tip.
 
Engrave your horn first! ____ Leather dye is not the best choice!..Rubs off easily after a while __ Use RIT dyes! For the spout end use a strong hot water solution of RIT in dark brown or black if you want. Mask off the area of the horn you do not want to get any dye on for the spout area. No problem if you do, as you can just carefully sand any run off with 400 grit sandpaper and #0000 steel wool. __ When ready to dye the main body of the horn, use RIT dye again in a color you like in a large enough kettle, pot or bucket big enough to hold water and the horn. __ Use a box of yellow (or two) and a pinch of orange and a wee bit of brown makes a nice old amber color, but you will have to experiment mixing different colors until you get the color your looking to use!

You can submerge the entire horn into the amber or main body color, as long as it is lighter than the darker spout tip and the spout color will not change color at all! The time you leave the horn in either color of dye will determining the deepness of your color, but usually 30 minutes should do it!

NOTE! ... Bring your RIT dye water to a rolling boil and then turn off heat before emerging your horn and be very careful!

Rick
 
THANKS GUYS! Horner75: I only use the leather dye for the scrimshaw...is that ok? I was thinking a walnut hull dye for the rest of the horn? I have also heard of guys using a dark walnut wood stain? I am just curious about those options I mentioned...Where can I get the RIT dye at?
Thanks to all who gave help when needed!
 
RIT is a common fabric dye available in powder or liquid form at any supermarket.
 
+1 to what Horner75 said ... this is a great book- well written without being pedantic, plenty of illustrations... practical, well laid out and putsd the steps in logical order.

(just my two cents worth)
 
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