rafterob
62 Cal.
80 grains is not excessive in a .50 cal. but surely the charge can be lowered into the 55-70 grain range and still have excellent accuracy.
Well done! Short, concise, and clear. Thanks much!
ROGER THAT!! so true! now I must admit that that!Yeah but weren't we alot younger in 1961?
“ Good accuracy will be found much lighter. Try it, you'll like it!”
And my powder will last longer! I will do that, I found my Kentucky pistol is most accurate at 20-25 grain! I just liked the clean holes 80 grains left in the target
Ok, bear with me here.
I own rifles that are modern that will make most male shooters either wince or pee their pants. Yes I saw this happen. A male shooter shot the same ammo from his firearm and pee'd his pants on the second shot. This also includes a very light weight 6ish pound 3.5" modern pump shotgun shooting 3.5" 2.25oz 1200fps turkey loads. I know first hand what recoil is all about. Try a .338 Lapua in a 7ish pound rifle without a muzzle brake. Ok?
If you own a rifle or smoothbore that is a muzzleloader, PLEASE try @Britsmoothy way of shouldering the weapon. PLEASE. He posted a short video in this thread. It is HC/PC and will reduce the 'pain' either benched or offhand. If you own a modern that you fear, try this-
1. Hold the weapon tight to your shoulder.
2. Wear ear plugs PLUS ear muffs to reduce the muzzle blast to your ears. This is important as the blast to your ears is often worse than the kick or push to your body.
3. Just go with 'it'. The weapon is going to kick. Roll with it and don't fight it.
The same 'rules' apply to traditional muzzleloaders. Put the butt plate in space between the deltoid and bicep, as described by @Britsmoothy, hold tight and 'roll with it'. Don't fight the recoil.
If it still hurts. Reduce the powder charge.
Wow I’m using too much powder!Bob McBride of Blackpowder TV has a good video on how to mount a southern mountain rifle with a crescent butt stock. So does Britsmoothy.
I only use 50 grains of 2f in my .50 caliber Kentucky long rifle and it’s very accurate out to 50 yards and probably more. This load is also easy on the old man doing the shooting.
if I was in the same shape as I was in 1961 I might agree with you, but I have learned from years of shooting that you get NO Gold Stars for recoil. Only a fool thinks getting pounded shot after shot, is meaningful IMHO. When i went into OCS we were using M-14's, big heavy, and liked to kick, not a lot of ammo. When we were given our first M16's, I thought, someone finally caught on! I "acquired" a CAR15 style ,and loved it. Light, easy to handle, worked fine and I could carry more ammo then three guys with m14's. Then I picked up a Swedish K while I was overseas and carried that until I rotated out. Never felt under gunned.shoulder aids are for SISSIES! stand up and shoot like a man, there were none for us when we shot the M-1 GARAND in the ARMY in 1961. jmho.
Good for you. Recoil is for fools, IMHO. You gain nothing by being kicked around except bad shooting habits.One thing that has been left out of this discussion is the shooter size, body mass and the natural padding that they possess. I am a bony type, with plenty of muscle but little body fat in my shoulders, my 12ga fowler flintlock loaded with a max turkey load kicks my @%%, I use a thick PAST recoil pad and don't feel a thing, I don't flinch and can enjoy shooing my fowler as well as my big bore flintlock deer rifles.
I have also had reconstructive surgery on my right shoulder, lots of variables on whether to use a recoil pad or not, some of us need one to keep on shooting.
If you use 60 grins for a load ,how many smiles does it take to make a grin? LOL Ha! Ha!.....I shoot 60 grins of fff in my .50, and great accuracy out to 100yds. Some folks think they have to use big charges, when they don't
if I was in the same shape as I was in 1961 I might agree with you, but I have learned from years of shooting that you get NO Gold Stars for recoil. Only a fool thinks getting pounded shot after shot, is meaningful IMHO. When i went into OCS we were using M-14's, big heavy, and liked to kick, not a lot of ammo. When we were given our first M16's, I thought, someone finally caught on! I "acquired" a CAR15 style ,and loved it. Light, easy to handle, worked fine and I could carry more ammo then three guys with m14's. Then I picked up a Swedish K while I was overseas and carried that until I rotated out. Never felt under gunned.
OH Shoot! Just stick a couple of Depends Guards for men on a tee shirt under your old fashioned flannel or buckskin shirt, BTW stick one in your briefs just in case recoil or old age makes you pee your pants. Get them at Wally world or AMAZON!I haven’t tried it yet, still waiting for the bruising to clear up. It feels good in place, and it might ease that bracing I do for the kick that ain’t helping my groups
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