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[Swagman]

Well, at least you can buy percussion caps! here in New South Wales it is now impossible to buy any type of percussion cap. I recently emailed the main Australian importer of CCI and Remington caps in desperation, they have had caps on back order for two years now. It is now so grim that going forward only flintlocks will be able to shoot. Who would have thought that in 2024 it is easier to buy a gun flint than a percussion cap!

 

[Gordoncourtney]

Well, at least you can buy percussion caps! here in New South Wales it is now impossible to buy any type of percussion cap. I recently emailed the main Australian importer of CCI and Remington caps in desperation, they have had caps on back order for two years now. It is now so grim that going forward only flintlocks will be able to shoot. Who would have thought that in 2024 it is easier to buy a gun flint than a percussion cap!

I guess it’s just the Ukraine war using up everything , I gather all shells have BP as a primer charge , So only Swiss is available Just make your own caps see utube . Or see if you can get 209 shotgun primers and conversion nipples or make your own , 11 caps came in to uk last week Henry Krank

 

[Gordoncourtney]

I guess it’s just the Ukraine war using up everything , I gather all shells have BP as a primer charge , So only Swiss is available Just make your own caps see utube . Or see if you can get 209 shotgun primers and conversion nipples or make your own , 11 caps came in to uk last week Henry Krank

Henry Krank UK but look at the price !!!

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[Sir Boniface Harrison]

Well, at least you can buy percussion caps! here in New South Wales it is now impossible to buy any type of percussion cap. I recently emailed the main Australian importer of CCI and Remington caps in desperation, they have had caps on back order for two years now. It is now so grim that going forward only flintlocks will be able to shoot. Who would have thought that in 2024 it is easier to buy a gun flint than a percussion cap!

Swagman, when caps were really short supplied in Europe I bought a kit for making your own percussion caps using a solvent and crushed match heads. The kit comes with a metal template for making the body of the caps, the solution itself and an optional 25 reusable brass cap bodies. I have never used this, because within a week of buying it caps here became plentiful again. If you are interested PM me for details.

 

[TFoley]

Does the hazmat fee just apply to one box of primers, or can you order say a dozen tins with the 30 quid hazmat fee covering it all?

The amount in the HAZMAT shipment is immaterial - one pack or or ten thousand.

 

[TFoley]

Swagman, when caps were really short supplied in Europe I bought a kit for making your own percussion caps using a solvent and crushed match heads. The kit comes with a metal template for making the body of the caps, the solution itself and an optional 25 reusable brass cap bodies. I have never used this, because within a week of buying it caps here became plentiful again. If you are interested PM me for details.

Making an explosive device in Australia is about the same as here in UK. Nope.

 

[Gordoncourtney]

Making an explosive device in Australia is about the same as here in UK. Nope.

Whilst in Perth WAu I found some things difficult so bought from eBay uk. Typical was a roof rack for a Subaru. It cost £32 postage Yodel or something and took 7 weeks to arrive .

I looked at and bought some

 

[Gordoncourtney]

Whilst in Perth WAu I found some things difficult so bought from eBay uk. Typical was a roof rack for a Subaru. It cost £32 postage Yodel or something and took 7 weeks to arrive .

I looked at and bought some

I looked at iand bought some toy percussion caps about £4/100 dead cheap and quite powerful , no restriction normal post 2-3 days , they have potential and a slightly smaller nipple, perhaps you can get them on eBay au

 

[Gordoncourtney]

I looked at iand bought some toy percussion caps about £4/100 dead cheap and quite powerful , no restriction normal post 2-3 days , they have potential and a slightly smaller nipple, perhaps you can get them on eBay au

Yes I looked on ebayAu. So you can buy caps. But in Oz unlike uk postage is unavailable as classified as explosives Guess it’s collect only. Done my best

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[Gordoncourtney]

Making an explosive device in Australia is about the same as here in UK. Nope.

Yes I agree there are limits to everything , making explosive is just over the edge, especially for kids, UK or in Oz, it came home in my teens when a local in Bridport when an 18 year old lad made a weed killer gun pipe bomb for gun, he was hammering the end to seal it and exploded, not much of his hand left , stupid lad . Push you luck
and you get it burnt. Gun laws in the 1960s were fine , but with gun crime increasing over the years , the rest is history . I guess the uk home office wants a gun free uk. But that’s hurting innocent shooters , but criminals will still use guns . It’s a no win situation . I’ll try not to get angry. I like French gun laws , they are sensible . But don’t go out in the hunting season , many people are accidentally killed , but they still don’t ban guns.

I had better stop ranting on

 

[Sir Boniface Harrison]

Making an explosive device in Australia is about the same as here in UK. Nope.

Really? What about paper cartridges?

 

[Swagman]

Swagman, when caps were really short supplied in Europe I bought a kit for making your own percussion caps using a solvent and crushed match heads. The kit comes with a metal template for making the body of the caps, the solution itself and an optional 25 reusable brass cap bodies. I have never used this, because within a week of buying it caps here became plentiful again. If you are interested PM me for details.

Thanks for the information. I have just found out that one of our club members has ordered a a similar kit from the US and it was delivered a day or two ago. Our Christmas shoot & BBQ is this coming Sunday and i am going to advise all of our members to order at least one of these kits, this will at least keep us going until a shipment of caps finally makes it down here! I am also going to try and make an order on behalf of the club direct with the Oz distributor so that when they do come in we can perhaps cut out the middle man (gun shops).
Cheers

 

[Swagman]

Making an explosive device in Australia is about the same as here in UK. Nope.

The material that comes in these kits is 4 separate chemicals that when combined with rubbing alcohol makes the percussive compound, there is nothing that I can see in the NSW Firearms Act that specifically prohibits this.

 

[Swagman]

Really? What about paper cartridges?

Not mentioned at all in the legislation due to the fact that is was drafted ignoring all of the submissions from the NSW Muzzle Loading Association and thus it was legislated by public servants with little knowledge of modern firearms and zero knowledge of black powder firearms!

 

[Sir Boniface Harrison]

The material that comes in these kits is 4 separate chemicals that when combined with rubbing alcohol makes the percussive compound, there is nothing that I can see in the NSW Firearms Act that specifically prohibits this.

Indeed, this kit arrived by post without any hazmat fee or special requirements - but again, this is France where gun legislation is comparatively light by non US standards. Are you able to send for one?

 

[TFoley]

The material that comes in these kits is 4 separate chemicals that when combined with rubbing alcohol makes the percussive compound, there is nothing that I can see in the NSW Firearms Act that specifically prohibits this.

It's nice to know that your gubmint is so enlightened. Here in UK, with 30+ years of homemade terrorism, things are a little more circumspect.

 

[Loyalist Dave]

It's nice to know that your gubmint is so enlightened. Here in UK, with 30+ years of homemade terrorism, things are a little more circumspect.


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That's the government excuse, but so long as the government allows the items below to be sold, they aren't really doing anything other than an illusory act to gain public confidence and votes, while the danger still persists....,

LD